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Thanks for the interview clip with Neil Cavuto and Herman Cain, Valin! Two of my favorite people!

 

 

Herman makes a very good point...How many people on the left have ever been to a Tea Party rally, or know someone who considers them selves Tea Partiers? Not many I suspect. This is a problem with the left...in particular the hollywood left, they live in a bubble, they never read (say) NRO, or TAS, listen to Rush or Hugh...etc.

 

This is the reason I (and a couple of others) post over at Common Ground Politics, to give them the sane Conservative view and expose them to what we say and think.

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SrWoodchuckshout Thanks for posting the link for the Morris/Cain interview. My biggest hesitation about backing Cain is his speaking style, specifically his allocution. It is hard to discern with the soundbites we've been getting the depth of his speaking style, but the longer interview shows him in a better light.

 

There are links to other interviews at the same site, all worth watching.

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SrWoodchuckshout Thanks for posting the link for the Morris/Cain interview. My biggest hesitation about backing Cain is his speaking style, specifically his allocution. It is hard to discern with the soundbites we've been getting the depth of his speaking style, but the longer interview shows him in a better light.

 

There are links to other interviews at the same site, all worth watching.

No problem, shoutArgyle58!

 

A person can't help but like the man. He represents what is right [as in morally, politically, ethically, patriotically]......in every way; with America & Americans. No wonder Obama & ilk don't get it.....they want "the gold," for their own.....but will never appreciate, that how the gold was obtained; is as important as the gold itself. Here's some more from Stilton Jarlsberg, via TheoSpark.com:

 

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Editorial: Who Says Herman Cain Is Unelectable?

 

 

2012 Election: The various attempts to explain away Herman Cain's victory in the weekend's Florida straw poll all stem from the same underlying assumption: The guy is unelectable. Really? Based on what?

 

One political blogger summed up the general reaction to the Florida vote best: "Rather than a legitimate outpouring of support for Cain, or a specific rejection of Rick Perry, this victory represents a resounding cry of 'who else ya got?'"

 

The implicit message is that voters couldn't have been legitimately backing Cain, since he has no chance of getting the nomination, much less the presidency. So the vote must have been about "sending a message."

 

It's true that the media and the pundit class — including many conservative talkers — have dismissed Cain's presidential run as some sort of bucket-list ego trip.

 

A while back, Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer belittled Cain, saying his "candidacy is for entertainment." Karl Rove dismissed him as that "talk radio guy in Atlanta." Columnist Clarence Page concluded Cain was "able but not electable."

 

Why is that, exactly?

 

Is it because Cain lacks enough brain power or executive experience?

 

Well, let's check his resume.

 

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Born in Tennessee to humble roots — his mother was a cleaner and father a janitor — Cain went on to get a B.A. in math and a master's in computer science, the latter while working full time for the Navy.

 

He's had tremendous success in business, most recently as CEO of the once-moribund Godfather's Pizza. And here's something you won't hear from the media: He was on the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, serving as its chairman for two years in the 1990s.

 

So, maybe it's because Cain lacks sufficient conservative credentials?snip

 

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/586071/201109261837/Who-Says-Cain-Is-Unelectable-.htm

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SrWoodchuckshout Thanks for posting the link for the Morris/Cain interview. My biggest hesitation about backing Cain is his speaking style, specifically his allocution. It is hard to discern with the soundbites we've been getting the depth of his speaking style, but the longer interview shows him in a better light.

 

There are links to other interviews at the same site, all worth watching.

 

 

RCP Video: Herman Cain: Obama Is A Liar, Playing Class Warfare

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Herman Cain Swims with the Sharks

 

(Full disclosure: The author has done some writing for Mr. Cain and is currently working with him on his next book.)

 

With apologies to headline writers, the shock of Herman Cain routing the field in the Florida Straw poll and scoring first in the latest Zogby poll simply eludes me. If this result -- which is no doubt tied to the mixed performances during the last debate -- moves him into or near the top tier, I will not be shocked about that, either.

 

All of this is actually somewhat predictable if you are familiar with Herman Cain and how he might just be a man perfectly positioned for this specific election season. When you combine that possibility with one of the main principles of Harvey McKay's leadership book How to Swim With the Sharks..., you can see that this is an almost natural outcome. (More later on that.)

 

As I wrote in May -- on the possibility that Cain might disappear after the initial debate and his impressive roll-out announcement -- this is not a candidacy to be taken lightly:

 

But the main reason I think Cain's candidacy will continue to develop is Cain himself, combined with the times we are in. Herman Cain is a meticulous CEO whose life story is the essence of the American dream. His campaign, like his life, will be the sum of his focused planning plus his irrepressible personality and persona. He has a connection with people that is amazing, and for some reason, he just looks and sounds exactly as a man with his experiences should. And having stared stage 4 cancer in the eye and beaten it, he is fearless -- and his "give a damn" is broke.

Now certainly in the four months since this was written, his campaign did fade slowly from the top as the realities of financing such an effort have combined with a couple of not-so-great Chris Wallace moments and an overblown kerfuffle over Muslims in the Cabinet and so on. None of that changed the idea that Cain might be right for the times, however.

 

On top of that, Michele Bachmann had an outstanding performance in the second debate. That momentum carried her right through the Ames Straw Poll -- which she won. No doubt during this time she picked up some supporters who also are predisposed to liking Cain but jumped simply because Bachmann was saying and doing all the right things. Candidates on a roll pick up voters who also like other candidates who are not on a roll at that moment.

 

Meanwhile, the Sarah Palin bus tour rolled through Iowa and other parts of the nation at that same time, sucking up more potential oxygen for Cain. Again, this is potential Cain space, since he and Governor Palin are extremely close ideologically -- and nothing could be more "rogue" than a businessman being elected president.

 

(As an aside, there was some buzz on the web over the weekend that Palin might endorse Cain if she doesn't run. Just buzz, but that anyone would think it speaks to the mutual appeal of the two.)

 

And then of course Rick Perry threw his Stetson in the ring and that dominated the field the way only a veteran governor of a very successful and big state can. With his resonance with Tea Party principles (tuition issues notwithstanding) and his boldness on our national Ponzi scheme and stating that we need a less consequential Washington -- Perry roared to the top. His message, if not his entire record, was pretty darned good Tea Party stuff.snip

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Herman Cain Swims with the Sharks

 

(Full disclosure: The author has done some writing for Mr. Cain and is currently working with him on his next book.)

 

With apologies to headline writers, the shock of Herman Cain routing the field in the Florida Straw poll and scoring first in the latest Zogby poll simply eludes me. If this result -- which is no doubt tied to the mixed performances during the last debate -- moves him into or near the top tier, I will not be shocked about that, either.

 

All of this is actually somewhat predictable if you are familiar with Herman Cain and how he might just be a man perfectly positioned for this specific election season. When you combine that possibility with one of the main principles of Harvey McKay's leadership book How to Swim With the Sharks..., you can see that this is an almost natural outcome. (More later on that.)

 

As I wrote in May -- on the possibility that Cain might disappear after the initial debate and his impressive roll-out announcement -- this is not a candidacy to be taken lightly:

 

But the main reason I think Cain's candidacy will continue to develop is Cain himself, combined with the times we are in. Herman Cain is a meticulous CEO whose life story is the essence of the American dream. His campaign, like his life, will be the sum of his focused planning plus his irrepressible personality and persona. He has a connection with people that is amazing, and for some reason, he just looks and sounds exactly as a man with his experiences should. And having stared stage 4 cancer in the eye and beaten it, he is fearless -- and his "give a damn" is broke.

Now certainly in the four months since this was written, his campaign did fade slowly from the top as the realities of financing such an effort have combined with a couple of not-so-great Chris Wallace moments and an overblown kerfuffle over Muslims in the Cabinet and so on. None of that changed the idea that Cain might be right for the times, however.

 

On top of that, Michele Bachmann had an outstanding performance in the second debate. That momentum carried her right through the Ames Straw Poll -- which she won. No doubt during this time she picked up some supporters who also are predisposed to liking Cain but jumped simply because Bachmann was saying and doing all the right things. Candidates on a roll pick up voters who also like other candidates who are not on a roll at that moment.

 

Meanwhile, the Sarah Palin bus tour rolled through Iowa and other parts of the nation at that same time, sucking up more potential oxygen for Cain. Again, this is potential Cain space, since he and Governor Palin are extremely close ideologically -- and nothing could be more "rogue" than a businessman being elected president.

 

(As an aside, there was some buzz on the web over the weekend that Palin might endorse Cain if she doesn't run. Just buzz, but that anyone would think it speaks to the mutual appeal of the two.)

 

And then of course Rick Perry threw his Stetson in the ring and that dominated the field the way only a veteran governor of a very successful and big state can. With his resonance with Tea Party principles (tuition issues notwithstanding) and his boldness on our national Ponzi scheme and stating that we need a less consequential Washington -- Perry roared to the top. His message, if not his entire record, was pretty darned good Tea Party stuff.snip

 

 

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Cain's 'Chilean Model'

 

Election '12: Herman Cain's victory in Florida's straw poll is notable, among other things, for his advocacy of "Chilean Model" Social Security reform in a state filled with retirees. It ought to be a wake-up call to all candidates.

 

Aside from the insta-analysis about Cain's victory being a protest vote against Texas Gov. Rick Perry, it's worth noticing that — in Florida, no less — both Cain and Perry, who finished first and second in the weekend's GOP straw poll, were the two most outspoken candidates about confronting the U.S. crisis in Social Security.

 

It completely ends the notion that addressing the issue of unfunded pension liabilities — in Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare — is the third rail of politics.

 

Voters migrated from Perry to Cain, but there were multiple Tea Party favorites to choose from. In moving to Cain, they went from a moderate to a strong stance on Social Security reform.

 

Perry did call for a national dialogue on the matter. But Cain went much further, at least three times in debates calling for "The Chilean Model" to replace Social Security, bringing the idea to as many as 15 million viewers.

 

Chile's system, enacted in 1981, took government out of the pension business altogether and replaced it with a system of personal retirement accounts.

 

It's one of most successful fiscal reforms in history.

 

It outperforms Social Security on returns, yielding about 9.23% compounded annual returns over 30 years under private management.snip

 

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/586464/201109291833/Cains-Chilean-Model.htm

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The wild world of Cainonomics

Kevin D. Williamson

9/29/11

 

Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 proposal — a 9 percent personal-income tax, a 9 percent corporate-income tax, and a 9 percent federal sales tax, to replace all current federal taxes — is attractive in many ways. It is not a flat tax, but it is a flattish tax; it eliminates some (but by no means all) of the divide-and-conquer features of the federal tax code; it simplifies taxes for most households and many businesses; it might reduce compliance costs. All to the good.

 

A few things should be understood about the 9-9-9 plan. The first is that 9-9-9 is not Herman Cain’s real fiscal plan. He proposes 9-9-9 as an intermediate step en route to his preferred solution, the so-called Fair Tax, about which I have some serious reservations, along the lines of those spelled out by Ramesh Ponnuru here......(Snip)

 

 

I have real problems with the "Fair Tax" Plan.

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The wild world of Cainonomics

Kevin D. Williamson

9/29/11

 

Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 proposal — a 9 percent personal-income tax, a 9 percent corporate-income tax, and a 9 percent federal sales tax, to replace all current federal taxes — is attractive in many ways. It is not a flat tax, but it is a flattish tax; it eliminates some (but by no means all) of the divide-and-conquer features of the federal tax code; it simplifies taxes for most households and many businesses; it might reduce compliance costs. All to the good.

 

A few things should be understood about the 9-9-9 plan. The first is that 9-9-9 is not Herman Cain’s real fiscal plan. He proposes 9-9-9 as an intermediate step en route to his preferred solution, the so-called Fair Tax, about which I have some serious reservations, along the lines of those spelled out by Ramesh Ponnuru here......(Snip)

 

 

I have real problems with the "Fair Tax" Plan.

 

 

I like Cain, but ...

Massive sales tax has issues. If all taxes were based on sales, people would be inclined to resort to the barter system or off the books trade. Think internet and Craig's list. That just encourages illegals as a labor source and illegal trade.

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Potential for problems with 9-9-9 or Fair Tax? Maybe. But either one would be light years ahead of what we have now. There won't ever be a totally perfect solution for every situation, every corporation or every taxpayer.

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Herman Cain is running for president. He’s not a career politician (in fact he has never held political office). He’s known as a pizza guy, but there’s a lot more to him. He’s also a computer guy, a banker guy, and a rocket scientist guy.

 

Here’s his bio:

•Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics.

•Master’s degree in Computer Science.

•Mathematician for the Navy, where he worked on missile ballistics (making him a rocket scientist).

•Computer systems analyst for Coca-Cola.

•VP of Corporate Data Systems and Services for Pillsbury (this is the top of the ladder in the computer world, being in charge of information systems for a major corporation).

 

All achieved before reaching the age of 35. Since he reached the top of the information systems world, he changed careers!

•Business Manager. Took charge of Pillsbury’s 400 Burger King restaurants in the Philadelphia area, which were the company’s poorest performers in the country. Spent the first nine months learning the business from the ground up, cooking hamburger and yes, cleaning toilets. After three years he had turned them into the company’s best performers.

•Godfather’s Pizza CEO. Was asked by Pillsbury to take charge of their Godfather’s Pizza chain (which was on the verge of bankruptcy). He made it profitable in 14 months.

•In 1988 he led a buyout of the Godfather’s Pizza chain from Pillsbury. He was now the owner of a restaurant chain. Again he reached the top of the ladder of another industry.

•He was also chairman of the National Restaurant Association during this time. This is a group that interacts with government on behalf of the restaurant industry, and it gave him political experience from the non-politician side.

 

Having reached the top of a second industry, he changed careers again!

•Adviser to the Federal Reserve System. Herman Cain went to work for the Federal Reserve Banking System advising them on how monetary policy changes would affect American businesses.

•Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank. He worked his way up to the chairmanship of a regional Federal Reserve bank. This is only one step below the chairmanship of the entire Federal Reserve System (the top banking position in the country). This position allowed him to see how monetary policy is made from the inside, and understand the political forces that impact the monetary system.

 

After reaching the top of the banking industry, he changed careers for a fourth time!

•Writer and public speaker. He then started to write and speak on leadership. His books include Speak as a Leader, CEO of Self, Leadership is Common Sense, and They Think You’re Stupid.

•Radio Host. Around 2007—after a remarkable 40 year career—he started hosting a radio show on WSB in Atlanta (the largest talk radio station in the country).

 

He did all this starting from rock bottom (his father was a chauffeur and his mother was a maid). When you add up his accomplishments in his life—including reaching the top of three unrelated industries: information systems, business management, and banking—Herman Cain may have the most impressive resume of anyone that has run for the presidency in the last half century.

 

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An impressive man & a history of successful accomplishments in the capitalist American Republic.

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Herman Cain debates Bill Clinton in 1994 over the economics of government run healthcare. Interesting watch. The video also explains why we weren't allowed to see the ObamaCare legislation before it was passed.

 

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Is Herman Cain a Contender

Michael Barone

 

Is Herman Cain a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination? It's a question no one in the pundit world was asking until the past week.

 

(Snip)

 

We will see whether other national or state polls show Cain with a similar surge. If so, then there's a real possibility that Cain could win enough primaries and caucuses to be a real contender.

 

That possibility is already being taken seriously by The Wall Street Journal's Daniel Henninger. Henninger argued in a Sept. 29 column that Cain's success in business -- engineering turnarounds in Burger King's Philadelphia stores and Godfather's Pizza nationally -- made him a plausible candidate.

 

(Snip)

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Is Herman Cain a Contender

Michael Barone

 

Is Herman Cain a serious contender for the Republican presidential nomination? It's a question no one in the pundit world was asking until the past week.

 

(Snip)

 

We will see whether other national or state polls show Cain with a similar surge. If so, then there's a real possibility that Cain could win enough primaries and caucuses to be a real contender.

 

That possibility is already being taken seriously by The Wall Street Journal's Daniel Henninger. Henninger argued in a Sept. 29 column that Cain's success in business -- engineering turnarounds in Burger King's Philadelphia stores and Godfather's Pizza nationally -- made him a plausible candidate.

 

(Snip)

 

I'm hoping this "surge" allows him more air time in the next debate. If I see another hour long "Perry vs. Romney, and oh yeah these other people" I'll be annoyed.

 

You'd think by the media that Herman Cain doesn't even exist. Palin and Christie are getting more media coverage, and ... they ... are ... not ... even ... running. Cain's surge in the polls is dismissed as if it's irrational by the media. That's a flag to me that I might like this guy. The Media hates him? That can only help your chances with me.

 

Cain may not have political or foreign affairs experience. Neither did the Zero, but on top of that the Zero never had business experience. What I believe is that Cain doesn't have the Zero's God complex, will recognize his skill gaps, will surround himself with the right people, and that he will actually take advice from them. That, along with leadership makes a strong CEO. Personally, I think that will make him a strong President.

 

I'm not totally sold on Cain, but I'm certainly not finding anything that makes me holler and raise my shirt up in front of any of these other candidates. And trust me, nobody wants to see that spectacle.

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I know this is sort of crazy talk...but I think there is a very, very good chance that Cain is the next President of the United States.

 

He has a very Reaganesque quality to him, and he has the personable, approachable, trustable real man feel that people connect with. After the elite, effete Obama who came from nowhere and everywhere, I think his story will resonate. He is the outsider.

 

But most of all, he offers clarity in real-people language.

 

CBS has him even with Romney tonight. I think he may be the one. We. Have. ACTUALLY. been. looking. for. :lol:

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As soon as he appears to be the front runner, all hell is going to break loose. He was a CEO, wait until we hear the stories of employees fired, bribes, wild corporate retreats. What ever. He has not run for office, he has not been vetted yet. Hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.

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As soon as he appears to be the front runner, all hell is going to break loose. He was a CEO, wait until we hear the stories of employees fired, bribes, wild corporate retreats. What ever. He has not run for office, he has not been vetted yet. Hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.

 

Agreed. But I honestly think he's up for it. AND here is the important thing: He did not become a CEO by going to Ivy League Schools. He went to a regular college, got a masters, worked hard and made it to the top from the BOTTOM.

 

This is a VERY important distinction between him and one I believe will resonate with Americans. Most of us really want to believe that class doesn't matter...hard work does. Cain brings that to the table in a very real way.

 

I hope he has a good team around him. He's going to need it...but I like the guys story, his ability to connect, his self awareness, his toughness, his straight talk. When I take everything into consideration, I think he is our best shot...not at winning because I think several of these guys can win...but at winning AND being successful.

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