Geee Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Drudge has a link that policeman are taking off their uniforms and joining the protesters? I think I read that Mubarak had his family leave a couple of days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Neil Cavuto paraphrase - Egyptians were OK living under totalitarian regime provided there was food and jobs. Now rioting due to economic conditions. Flip this around. What will happen in the US if the economy continues to slide, Obama does nothing but expand government and continue this semi-totalitarian state with czars such as Cass Sunstein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 FOX crawler HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT, RISING FOOD PRICES BLAMED FOR EGYPT RIOTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 DREAMS meets REALITY The Augustana Band Bound for Egypt in January 2011 Wednesday, June 30, 2010 Augustana College, SD "Members of the Augustana Band will be immersed in the Egyptian culture for approximately three weeks" Augustana College band plays on amid turmoil in Egypt 12:10 AM, Jan. 28, 2011 Then, 12 hours later Augustana Band concert in Egypt canceled "Amid intensifying anti-government protests in Cairo, Egypt, the Augustana Band has canceled their scheduled concert there this evening. The concert was to be held at Mubarak Hall near the Cairo International Airport." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnstBlofeld Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Bolton on Fox saying that the Muslim Brotherhood. That is not good news and I hope that Iran has nothing to do with this. This makes the WH statement a little curious. I also think that Biden's statement and the WH statement are a little different in tone.(what else is new) Fox must be reading my posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnstBlofeld Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Losing Egypt? And waiting to take over:The Muslim Brotherhood. If they take over, they can close off the Suez Canal. A couple of points... 1 Losing Egypt. Wouldn't that presuppose that it's our to lose? 2 I have no doubt they want to take over, I question (A) can they, the answer is probably yes they can...but (B)can they maintain power? There is alot to lose. First and formost a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. If Egypt falls to jihadists, the first thing they will will do is tear up that treaty. That treaty has kept the peace in the area. The Egyptian police have been "helpful" in stopping Hamas. That will end if Egypt falls. The only way Mubarak can stay in power is the armed forces. If the armed forces turns on Mubarak either he is a dead man or will be sent into exile. Sadat was assasinated by his own army troops because they hated the treaty. Mubarak was sitting behind Sadat when he was murdered. So Mubarak knows the stakes. No real disagreements. But a couple of comments 1. Regardless how this turns out. This is a major development, large numbers of people standing up without fear and saying to the dictator...Enough! After 30 years time for you to go! Even if Mubarak stays in power (and remember he's getting long in the tooth), people will remember. 2. The Mubarak rule is part of the problem, yes true he brought stability. But at what price, where has the progress been? Remember the Warsaw nations were stable also. Stability is not and should not be be all and end all of Americas foreign policy. IMO supporting this revolution is worth the gamble. And I admit it's a big gamble, but as Walid Phares says in his new book "The revolution is coming" If you get rid of one dictatorship you might be installing a more radicalized dictatorship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Mubarak: 'There will be new government tomorrow' Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak says he has asked the government to resign as protests engulf the country. "I assure you ... I'm working for the people.... as long as you're respecting the law," Mubarak said in a televised speech on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak demanded the resignation of his government early Saturday but vowed to remain in power himself to protect the nation in defiance of massive demonstrations calling for his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 In sports, when the team goes bad, the coach if fired. Mubarak fired the team. He is finished, only a matter of time now. Worried about what follows. Oil was up 3.85 a barrel today and the market lost 166 pts. Bad news around the cornet and we have the O in the WH hiding. Bush's Fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 jaketapper Jake Tapper POTUS to make statement on egypt in state dining room in next 15-20 min, we're told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Losing Egypt? And waiting to take over:The Muslim Brotherhood. If they take over, they can close off the Suez Canal. A couple of points... 1 Losing Egypt. Wouldn't that presuppose that it's our to lose? 2 I have no doubt they want to take over, I question (A) can they, the answer is probably yes they can...but (B)can they maintain power? There is alot to lose. First and formost a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. If Egypt falls to jihadists, the first thing they will will do is tear up that treaty. That treaty has kept the peace in the area. The Egyptian police have been "helpful" in stopping Hamas. That will end if Egypt falls. The only way Mubarak can stay in power is the armed forces. If the armed forces turns on Mubarak either he is a dead man or will be sent into exile. Sadat was assasinated by his own army troops because they hated the treaty. Mubarak was sitting behind Sadat when he was murdered. So Mubarak knows the stakes. No real disagreements. But a couple of comments 1. Regardless how this turns out. This is a major development, large numbers of people standing up without fear and saying to the dictator...Enough! After 30 years time for you to go! Even if Mubarak stays in power (and remember he's getting long in the tooth), people will remember. 2. The Mubarak rule is part of the problem, yes true he brought stability. But at what price, where has the progress been? Remember the Warsaw nations were stable also. Stability is not and should not be be all and end all of Americas foreign policy. IMO supporting this revolution is worth the gamble. And I admit it's a big gamble, but as Walid Phares says in his new book "The revolution is coming" If you get rid of one dictatorship you might be installing a more radicalized dictatorship This obviously always a possibility, but it could also lead to a freer open system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clearvision Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The United States will review its "assistance posture" to Egypt based on events that take place in the coming days, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday. Whew! That was a close one, glad we got this thing under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnstBlofeld Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Losing Egypt? And waiting to take over:The Muslim Brotherhood. If they take over, they can close off the Suez Canal. A couple of points... 1 Losing Egypt. Wouldn't that presuppose that it's our to lose? 2 I have no doubt they want to take over, I question (A) can they, the answer is probably yes they can...but (B)can they maintain power? There is alot to lose. First and formost a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. If Egypt falls to jihadists, the first thing they will will do is tear up that treaty. That treaty has kept the peace in the area. The Egyptian police have been "helpful" in stopping Hamas. That will end if Egypt falls. The only way Mubarak can stay in power is the armed forces. If the armed forces turns on Mubarak either he is a dead man or will be sent into exile. Sadat was assasinated by his own army troops because they hated the treaty. Mubarak was sitting behind Sadat when he was murdered. So Mubarak knows the stakes. No real disagreements. But a couple of comments 1. Regardless how this turns out. This is a major development, large numbers of people standing up without fear and saying to the dictator...Enough! After 30 years time for you to go! Even if Mubarak stays in power (and remember he's getting long in the tooth), people will remember. 2. The Mubarak rule is part of the problem, yes true he brought stability. But at what price, where has the progress been? Remember the Warsaw nations were stable also. Stability is not and should not be be all and end all of Americas foreign policy. IMO supporting this revolution is worth the gamble. And I admit it's a big gamble, but as Walid Phares says in his new book "The revolution is coming" If you get rid of one dictatorship you might be installing a more radicalized dictatorship This obviously always a possibility, but it could also lead to a freer open system. Democracy in the Middle East(with the exception of Turkey and Israel)is not possible. The Middle East does not have the history of "democracy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrWoodchuck Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The United States will review its "assistance posture" to Egypt based on events that take place in the coming days, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday. Whew! That was a close one, glad we got this thing under control. We must know who gets the O-bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrWoodchuck Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Democracy in the Middle East(with the exception of Turkey and Israel)is not possible. The Middle East does not have the history of "democracy". There wasn't "Democracy" in the USA, either. What was established as a Republic has changed over the years, until we are now "Democratized." How can you keep the boys down on the farm, once they've been to the big city? The greatest fear of Iran & the Muslim Brotherhood is a Democratic "awakening," which is why Islamic Jihad must move now in Yemen, Tunisia & Egypt.[& anywhere else that they can] The Saudi's are very threatened by this uprising, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Obama says he told Mubarak to reform Egypt's government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ErnstBlofeld Democracy in the Middle East(with the exception of Turkey and Israel)is not possible. The Middle East does not have the history of "democracy". Tell that to the Iraqis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Obama says he told Mubarak to reform Egypt's government Not exactly a "Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall" moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Uh, um Muba....Hosti.. I mean um (what? oh yeah) Hoseni. You know this little riot thing you got in your um country um is bad for us and oh yeah your people. You really should um ah do some kind of thing, like um hmmmm ah! Make a speech on TV yah um that is what I want, oh um suggest you try. It well um always seems to work for me. Let me email you some ideas. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 John Podhoretz: Obama Talks to Mubarak 1/28/11 6:43 PM The president just said he told Hosni Mubarak he needed to move toward reforms and address grievances. One might say that it was the most prudent possible statement, as it neither seemed to be an effort to force change nor anything that could be read as an effort to stand in the way of change. Prudence in the midst of a complex foreign crisis is always desirable, but in no way does one have the sense that this administration has the foggiest idea what it should do......(Snip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 So I haven't turned the tv on all day, and probably should...but are we SURE we know who we should be rooting for here? (We=the Obama Administration.) I don't trust any of them. The Egyptian rioters, the Egyptian government, the Iranians or the Obama administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre86 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 So I haven't turned the tv on all day, and probably should...but are we SURE we know who we should be rooting for here? (We=the Obama Administration.) I don't trust any of them. The Egyptian rioters, the Egyptian government, the Iranians or the Obama administration. The real power behind these riots is Al-Qaeda. The Muslim Brotherhood is directly connected to Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's #2. They see this as their chance to seize control throughout the Middle East and surround Israel and Saudi Arabia, their greatest enemy and the nation they want to control more than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 So I haven't turned the tv on all day, and probably should...but are we SURE we know who we should be rooting for here? (We=the Obama Administration.) I don't trust any of them. The Egyptian rioters, the Egyptian government, the Iranians or the Obama administration. The real power behind these riots is Al-Qaeda. The Muslim Brotherhood is directly connected to Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's #2. They see this as their chance to seize control throughout the Middle East and surround Israel and Saudi Arabia, their greatest enemy and the nation they want to control more than any other. Egypt Islamists lukewarm on calls for mass protest 1/23/11 (Snip)The Brotherhood, which political analysts say has the ability to call thousands of disciplined supporters on to the streets if it wishes, has not openly called for its members to join in, but said it did not oppose youths or anyone else participating. (Snip) This week in the Middle East 1/26/11 (Snip) The huge demonstrations in Egypt yesterday didn't come entirely out of the blue. Strikes and street protests have long been a feature of Egyptian life and the political debate there is far more open than it was in Tunisia. The shock yesterday was in the scale of the protests – far beyond what the authorities and even the organisers expected, and all that without much support from the traditional opposition parties (including the Muslim Brotherhood which had declined to give its formal backing). (Snip) (Snip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 So I haven't turned the tv on all day, and probably should...but are we SURE we know who we should be rooting for here? (We=the Obama Administration.) I don't trust any of them. The Egyptian rioters, the Egyptian government, the Iranians or the Obama administration. The real power behind these riots is Al-Qaeda. The Muslim Brotherhood is directly connected to Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's #2. They see this as their chance to seize control throughout the Middle East and surround Israel and Saudi Arabia, their greatest enemy and the nation they want to control more than any other. And we're supporting the uprising because we're spooked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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