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If you could take 2 people off the stage at this point, who would it be? For me....Huntsman and Santorum. Just me.

 

 

Your thinking in my head sistah :D

It is getting uncanny how that happens. :lol:

 

What chaps me hide is Gary Johnson being excluded. Two time elected Gov. of NM that lowered taxes, but because he believes in eliminating or changing the drug laws, due to the cost basis analysis of the problem. Now we read that the drug laws is a Dem issue acoming....perhaps that is why.

 

Has GJ officially entered the race?

He entered the race April 21, 2011

 

It would be interesting to see a listing of all candidates officially "in". I am sure there are a lot of cusp like types. He does not seem to fit in that category. who controls these things? RNC?

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Have to ask the question asked on the last debate......why is CNN doing the questions.....to give the candidates time to put forth their ideas....or to marginalize candidates like Bachmann & push forward their "Hope'N'Dream" GOP candidates like Huntsman & Paul?

Good rheotorical question. ;)

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It would be interesting to see a listing of all candidates officially "in". I am sure there are a lot of cusp like types. He does not seem to fit in that category. who controls these things? RNC?

 

Media controls the debates to the best of my knowledge. Correct me if wrong anyone!

 

Check here for the updates.

 

Candidates 2012-TRR

 

Political Players 2012-TRR

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GOP debate winner: 'None of the above'

 

 

If tonight's Republican debate did one thing, it exposed the weaknesses of the entire Republican field. Texas Gov. Rick Perry received the brunt of the attacks tonight, and had an uneven performance overall. No huge gaffes, but he continued to raise questions about his command of details, and faced his toughest criticism yet from the right on immigration and the HPV vaccine.

 

Mitt Romney was his usual smooth self, but he also hurt himself by going too hard against Perry on Social Security, accusing him of scaring seniors by accurately describing the program as a Ponzi scheme. Romney also dug in on his irreconcilable position on health care. On the one hand, he said “I’m happy to stand up for what I did,” yet on the other hand, he said that what he did in Massachusetts isn't really relevant, because he's running for president, not governor.

 

Perry, meanwhile, missed chances in both of these exchanges. While he came off better from the conservative perspective, he said that candidates needed to have the courage to present ideas for changing Social Security, even though he himself hasn't backed up his talk with a plan. On health care, he made the same mistake as Tim Pawlenty, by citing President Obama to back up the claim that the Massachusetts plan was the inspiration for the national health care law, which gave Romney the easy response -- that we shouldn't trust anything Obama says. Perry would have been better off explaining how they're the same.

 

Perry was also battered by Rep. Michele Bachmann on immigration and the HPV vaccine mandate. She hit him not only on the liberty issue, but also on the crony capitalism angle -- that he did it to benefit campaign contributor Merck. Perry's response, that he only got $5,000 out of the $30 million he raised, is not the best defense.

 

On immigration, he didn't back down on his policy of giving in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants. This will knock him down a peg among many conservatives, but immigration is not a dominant issue this year the way it was in 2007 when there was an active push for comprehensive reform that was being led by John McCain. If McCain can survive the immigration issue, so can Perry.

 

But Perry also raised a lot of doubts by saying he supported a pullout of Afghanistan, but still supports some presence there. His foreign policy views continue to be a big question mark. It isn't clear what he believes, or more importantly, whether he has given the issues much thought. And speaking of foreign policy, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex., was once again rightly booed for his attempt to blame U.S. policy toward Israel and bombing of Iraq for the Sept. 11 attacks.

 

While Bachmann got some hits on Perry, she still hasn't shown how she can overcome her problem, which is lack of executive experience. Plus, she made some inaccurate statements, such as the fact that state level mandates are unconstitutional. While I personally oppose health insurance mandates at all levels of government as a violation of liberty, and believe the federal one is unconstitutional, as a legal matter, states do have general police power and thus are not constitutionally prohibited from issuing mandates. The lawsuits currently pending challenge the federal mandate, not the state-level Massachusetts mandate.

 

As for the other candidates, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum demonstrated their command of policy, but didn't have any break through moments big enough to change their standing in the race. Jon Huntsman made a bunch of awkward jokes and Herman Cain did his thing.

 

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gop-debate-winner-none-above

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From James Lileks of NRO:

 

Thursday, September 8, 2011

 

James Lileks, on why we need to reduce federal spending:

 

Because that old world is over. . . .

 

A half-century experiment in draping steam­ship anchors around the necks of the productive class and expecting them to run a four-minute mile has ended in failure. The confiscation of rights and property, the moral impoverishment of generations caused by the state’s usurpation of parental obligations, the elevation of a credentialed elite that believes academia’s fashions are a worthy substitute for knowledge of history and human nature, and above all the faith in a weightless cipher whose oratorical panache now consists of looking from one teleprompter screen to the other with the enthusiasm of a man watching someone else’s kids play tennis–it’s over, whether you believe in it or not. It cannot be sustained without reducing everyone to penurious equality, crippling the power of the United States, and subsuming the economy to a no-growth future that rations energy.

 

To which some progressives respond: You say that like it’s a bad thing.

 

H/T:DoesItHaveToBeAnOldMill via DougRoss@Journal

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To add to my ODS... I just learned that the Dumb and Dumberer roadshow will be here in Raleigh in the next couple of days.

 

We're getting more than our fair share of the Bamboozle Express these days.

 

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posted this on our TRR forum at Facebook but want to also post it here..

 

LONG.. so make sure you devote enough time to read it. It is a good read.

 

Dubya and Me --- Liberal Journalist shares on his many decade relationship with 43

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Legendary television personality Chuck Woolery is well-known for hosting a slew of American game shows. From “Wheel of Fortune” to “Love Connection,” his wide-spanning exposure has made him a familiar face for decades.

 

And now, in a comical, new PSA of sorts, Woolery takes on the contentious issue of taxation. But rather than railing on with platitudes and long-winded lectures, the television veteran takes a humorous tone in his two and a half minute video.

 

Aside from calling billionaire Warren Buffett and actor Matt Damon out for their stances on taxation, he sarcastically encourages the wealthy to voluntarily pay higher taxes (he even gives them directions regarding where they can send monies to help lower the nation’s debt):

 

“To those suffering with the unbearable pain of obnoxiously high back balances or low-back pain from sitting on overstuffed wallets. I say forget waiting for Congress to do something. Let’s act now!”

 

 

 

The Blaze

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posted this on our TRR forum at Facebook but want to also post it here..

 

LONG.. so make sure you devote enough time to read it. It is a good read.

 

Dubya and Me --- Liberal Journalist shares on his many decade relationship with 43

 

That was a FANTASTIC read. Thank you so much Ghost.

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Rheoshout

 

Loved Chuck's piece. I've always gotten a kick out of that man. And he also makes me miss old fashioned game shows...you know, the kind where contestants actually played a game (with rules) and avoided sleeping with each other and pregnant pauses. :unsure: Not necessarily in that order. ;)

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Has everyone seen the website the O has had set up to snitch on us?

 

Attack Watch

 

And Twitter's response to the site:

 

#attackwatch

 

Some serious remarks and many funny responses.

 

"Dear #AttackWatch, Will Jay Carney deny the establishment of a Twitter account called @AttackWatch tomorrow afternoon?"

 

"jimmiebjr Jimmie

Dear #AttackWatch. My business plan consists of lavish donations to @BarackObama in return for a huge federal loan. That's cool, right?"

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Has everyone seen the website the O has had set up to snitch on us?

 

Attack Watch

 

And Twitter's response to the site:

 

#attackwatch

 

Some serious remarks and many funny responses.

 

"Dear #AttackWatch, Will Jay Carney deny the establishment of a Twitter account called @AttackWatch tomorrow afternoon?"

 

"jimmiebjr Jimmie

Dear #AttackWatch. My business plan consists of lavish donations to @BarackObama in return for a huge federal loan. That's cool, right?"

Casino! Hilarious! My favorite Tweet:

 

DearCitizenTVJusten Charters

 

#Attackwatch Did you find the Muslim Brotherhood plant in the White House? It needs to be sprayed with Roundup!

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