UK Muslims launch campaign calling Christmas 'evil'

[Geee]

Washington Examiner:

Well, this ought to help encourage dialogue:

Fanatics from a banned Islamic hate group have launched a nationwide poster campaign denouncing Christmas as evil.

Organisers plan to put up thousands of placards around the UK claiming the season of goodwill is responsible for rape, teenage pregnancies, abortion, promiscuity, crime and paedophilia.

They hope the campaign will help 'destroy Christmas' in this country and lead to Britons converting to Islam instead.

It reads: 'On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me an STD (sexually transmitted disease).

'On the second day debt, on the third rape, the fourth teenage pregnancies and then there was abortion.'

[SrWoodchuck]

Geee! Thanks & Merry Christmas!

 

I'm thinking they assume that "Mommy" is doing more than ".....kissing Santa, under the mistletoe...."

 

In the Christmas spirit, I'll suggest some Christmas carols:

 

"Be Silent Night"

 

"El-No"

 

"We Three Kings Of Orient, Aren't"

 

"Oh, Little Star of Bethle-HAM"

[AceRimmer]

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

[SrWoodchuck]

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

Ace!

 

They ran out of "virgin's" a few years ago......the choices are now melons or goats.

 

On a sadly serious note: US Marine units are balking at working with some Afghan tribal police & Army conscripts; due to their rampant homosexuality & pedophilia involving young boys. It's explained away as a "cultural thing" like honor killings, stonings, blindings & amputation of limbs and heads. The collective intelligence of Islamic culture has been compromised by inbreeding, since the 7th Century.

 

The wonderful killing of DADT is bound to help this situation, right?

[kevindavis]

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

 

Islam is the worst religion that females can join.. I don't know why they do it..

[Casino67]

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

 

Islam is the worst religion that females can join.. I don't know why they do it..

 

Do they really have a choice?

[kevindavis]

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

 

Islam is the worst religion that females can join.. I don't know why they do it..

 

Do they really have a choice?

 

Maybe in the middle east no, but I see females in the west converting to Islam.. Why I don't know.

[Pepper]

kevindavis

Casino67

AceRimmer

 

Just look at the converts to Islam. The male and female converts are not necessarily all college educated, but the trend fits with the anti-Western (aka anti white) philosophy that U.S. universities have been spouting for decades. Prisons are recruiting grounds for converts as well.

 

It is ironic that liberals see nothing wrong with Islamic subjugation of women, particularly the feminazis.

 

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

 

Islam is the worst religion that females can join.. I don't know why they do it..

 

Do they really have a choice?

 

Maybe in the middle east no, but I see females in the west converting to Islam.. Why I don't know.

[Valin]

Pavlog's dog.

[SrWoodchuck]

Pavlog's dog.

Valin!

 

Pavlov's Inbred Dog!

[Valin]

Pavlog's dog.

Valin!

 

Pavlov's Inbred Dog!

 

 

Point being every time one of these groups says something outrageous like this people get their panties in a bunch, and treat them like they were someone important. While I haven't looked I acn almost guarantee that large numbers of folks at a certain other site are in high dungeon and full of righteous indignation, threatening dire dire consequences over this. We're like a bunch of Pavlov's dogs.

[SrWoodchuck]

Pavlog's dog.

Valin!

 

Pavlov's Inbred Dog!

Point being every time one of these groups says something outrageous like this people get their panties in a bunch, and treat them like they were someone important. While I haven't looked I acn almost guarantee that large numbers of folks at a certain other site are in high dungeon and full of righteous indignation, threatening dire dire consequences over this. We're like a bunch of Pavlov's dogs.

Valin!

 

OK, I see your point about who is slavering at the ringing of the bell; but I feel we can't ignore that all non-Muslim people [not just Christians] are under attack by militant Islam, in a way that has not happened since the Moorish invasion of Europe. Where they are not killing, they are legislating & litigating their advantage.

 

What is more heinous, an attack with lead & steel, resulting in bloody conquest; or bloodless graft of social services, special legislation/litigation for supra-equal rights & economic & political advantage, that result in a collapse of the system, starvation & chaos?

 

The UK is almost at that point right now. France, Germany, Spain & some of the Scandinavian countries are re-thinking the threat posed by their Muslim immigrant populations.

[cudjo]

After 9/11 my thoughts were we needed to round up all muslims, yeah I know it's profiling, and have them swear and prove their allegiance to the US, not their radical junk, they would have probably lied about it but at least let them know we don't trust them at all.

[SrWoodchuck]

After 9/11 my thoughts were we needed to round up all muslims, yeah I know it's profiling, and have them swear and prove their allegiance to the US, not their radical junk, they would have probably lied about it but at least let them know we don't trust them at all.

Cudjo!

 

The WWII internment of Japanese citizens, has forever changed the politically correct landscape. The Japanese didn't practice taqqiya, either.

[Sabre86]

After 9/11 my thoughts were we needed to round up all muslims, yeah I know it's profiling, and have them swear and prove their allegiance to the US, not their radical junk, they would have probably lied about it but at least let them know we don't trust them at all.

 

Rounding up American citizens, including those who are natural born, goes against everything this nation used to stand for. There is one thing to lock up or expel foreigners rather as we did in WWII, but to do the same to American citizens, who have not committed a crime or engaged in subversive activity, should not happen. It was wrong and WWII and it would be wrong now.

 

Many of the Americans we rounded up during WWII served with honor and the 442nd Infantry was the most decorated regiment in the U.S. armed forces including 21 Medals of Honor.

 

Of course, some like Michelle Malkin has wanted this since 9/12 and had even vaguely implied they should just be eliminated.

[cudjo]

Guess I wasn't very clear, I know we couldn't do it to the citizens, I mean all of the ones here for school and various other activities, there are a lot of them in Norman OK that really need to be sent home

[kevindavis]

kevindavis

Casino67

AceRimmer

 

Just look at the converts to Islam. The male and female converts are not necessarily all college educated, but the trend fits with the anti-Western (aka anti white) philosophy that U.S. universities have been spouting for decades. Prisons are recruiting grounds for converts as well.

 

It is ironic that liberals see nothing wrong with Islamic subjugation of women, particularly the feminazis.

 

The bottom of the poster declares: 'In Islam we are protected from all of these evils. We have marriage, family, honour, dignity, security, rights for man, woman and child.'

 

That is SO rich in hypocrisy! Do female Islamofascists wearing clothing made by DuPont get honey and 72 virgins when they blow themselves up, too?

 

Islam is the worst religion that females can join.. I don't know why they do it..

 

Do they really have a choice?

 

Maybe in the middle east no, but I see females in the west converting to Islam.. Why I don't know.

 

I'm not talking about the people here like prisoners converting to Islam. In the UK there was an article stating that Tony's Blair sister in law converted to Islam. Personally I think she is doing to get attention or something..

[kevindavis]

I would like to add something.. I don't hate the people who practice Islam. I'm not a big fan of the religion nor would I convert to Islam. I respect the right of people to practice whatever religion they wish to practice. I just don't trust Islam unless the religion goes through a reformation like Christianity did.

[Valin]

I would like to add something.. I don't hate the people who practice Islam. I'm not a big fan of the religion nor would I convert to Islam. I respect the right of people to practice whatever religion they wish to practice. I just don't trust Islam unless the religion goes through a reformation like Christianity did.

 

 

Have you considered that this war is exactly that? A battle to see weather or not Islam will survive as one of the great religions of the world, or weather it will simply disappear.

The way I have come to view this war is it is a civil war inside Islam, and we are collateral damage. The reason we (the forces of civilization) will win is they (Salafis/Khomeinist/Wahhabis) offer only death or a return to the long dead past.

 

The question should always be asked....does this (what ever this is) harm or help the Salafis/Khomeinist/Wahhabis forces, )or as I prefer to call them The Bad Guys) arrayed against us? The forces fighting against "The Bad Guys' are out there...everywhere you care to look...(see the Green Revolution in Iran as but one example)

 

Two new books about what I am and have been talking about for some time....

The Coming Revolution: Struggle for Freedom in the Middle East

(I've not read it....yet, but it's at the top of my list)

 

And

 

The Next Founders: Voices of Democracy in the Middle East

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7HKNHMHVk

 

 

C-Span link here

[Valin]

After 9/11 my thoughts were we needed to round up all muslims, yeah I know it's profiling, and have them swear and prove their allegiance to the US, not their radical junk, they would have probably lied about it but at least let them know we don't trust them at all.

Cudjo!

 

The WWII internment of Japanese citizens, has forever changed the politically correct landscape. The Japanese didn't practice taqqiya, either.

 

 

And neither do the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim...no matter what Robert Spencer and the simplistic idiots at Jihad watch say.

(I should say at this time that if I have given the impression that I don't like Robert Spencer and consider him simplistic demagogue......it's because I do.)

 

Taqiyya

 

Taqiyya

[Rokke]

 

I'm not talking about the people here like prisoners converting to Islam. In the UK there was an article stating that Tony's Blair sister in law converted to Islam. Personally I think she is doing to get attention or something..

 

I don't think enough people actually buy the magnitude of your last sentence. People do the strangest, most unexplainable things to gain attention. Tattoos, strange hair color, self-mutilation, sado-masochism, murder, genocide... The least logical and poorly reasoned argument I can hear about why people do things is the statement "Who would choose to be that way?" Really?!? People choose to make all kinds of unexplainable decisions. Like converting to a religion based on violence and the subjugation of women.

[SrWoodchuck]

After 9/11 my thoughts were we needed to round up all muslims, yeah I know it's profiling, and have them swear and prove their allegiance to the US, not their radical junk, they would have probably lied about it but at least let them know we don't trust them at all.

Cudjo!

 

The WWII internment of Japanese citizens, has forever changed the politically correct landscape. The Japanese didn't practice taqqiya, either.

 

 

And neither do the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim...no matter what Robert Spencer and the simplistic idiots at Jihad watch say.

(I should say at this time that if I have given the impression that I don't like Robert Spencer and consider him simplistic demagogue......it's because I do.)

 

Taqiyya

 

Taqiyya

Valin!

 

I said the Japanese did not practice taqiyya [thanks for correcting my mis-spelling.] Untrue?

 

Some Muslims are using taqiyya. Which ones? I don't freaking know, and neither do you!

 

I'll accept that most don't use it; but it is fatally irresponsible to conclude that the ones you suspect of terrorism will not use it or anything else for their mission. Which is conquest of all the lands of the earth, and placing them under Islam & sharia law, and death or conversion as your choices. [Happening in Pakistan & Indonesia, now]

 

We are at war with an enemy that has proven the ability to strike inside our borders & kill our citizens dead. They use our laws, our politival correctness, and our naivete to fund jihadis, and to kill our citizens & soldiers. I consider that taqiyya. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspiritor in several FBI cases. The fact that they have not been indicted; is not a form of taqiyya?

 

Where is the voice of your majority of Muslims that refuse to use taqiyya, or to kill other Muslims? Crickets, baby!

 

They may be as intimidated by their own, as much as we are.......but they need to make a choice: Citizens of the American Republic, with freedom to practice their religion under US Constitutional law; or, remain abettors of jihad, that practice taqiyya by their silence. Not too much to ask of a US citizen, is it? Stand & speak against terror.

 

To pretend that some Muslims don't have a goal, as outlined in their holy book, that orders them to use everything available to them to accomplish conquest, install sharia law & put all lands under Islam; is to let the US become the present day UK, Netherlands or France.

 

BTW: I don't read Robert Spencer, but I know who he is; and I respect him & Pam Gellar for their fight against the Ground Zero mosque. I don't consider that simplistic idiocy or demagoguery.....I consider it patriotism, and I'm not ashamed of that, either.

[Valin]

After 9/11 my thoughts were we needed to round up all muslims, yeah I know it's profiling, and have them swear and prove their allegiance to the US, not their radical junk, they would have probably lied about it but at least let them know we don't trust them at all.

Cudjo!

 

The WWII internment of Japanese citizens, has forever changed the politically correct landscape. The Japanese didn't practice taqqiya, either.

 

 

And neither do the vast overwhelming majority of Muslim...no matter what Robert Spencer and the simplistic idiots at Jihad watch say.

(I should say at this time that if I have given the impression that I don't like Robert Spencer and consider him simplistic demagogue......it's because I do.)

 

Taqiyya

 

Taqiyya

Valin!

 

I said the Japanese did not practice taqiyya [thanks for correcting my mis-spelling.] Untrue?

 

I did?! Well hooray for me!!!

 

Some Muslims are using taqiyya. Which ones? I don't freaking know, and neither do you!

 

With a little research a person can find out. I'd say the odds of running into someone who is do it in real life is pretty small.

Trust but verify!

 

I'll accept that most don't use it; but it is fatally irresponsible to conclude that the ones you suspect of terrorism will not use it or anything else for their mission. Which is conquest of all the lands of the earth, and placing them under Islam & sharia law, and death or conversion as your choices. [Happening in Pakistan & Indonesia, now]

 

We are at war with an enemy that has proven the ability to strike inside our borders & kill our citizens dead. They use our laws, our politival correctness, and our naivete to fund jihadis, and to kill our citizens & soldiers. I consider that taqiyya. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspiritor in several FBI cases. The fact that they have not been indicted; is not a form of taqiyya?

 

Where is the voice of your majority of Muslims that refuse to use taqiyya, or to kill other Muslims? Crickets, baby!

 

They may be as intimidated by their own, as much as we are.......but they need to make a choice: Citizens of the American Republic, with freedom to practice their religion under US Constitutional law; or, remain abettors of jihad, that practice taqiyya by their silence. Not too much to ask of a US citizen, is it? Stand & speak against terror.

 

To pretend that some Muslims don't have a goal, as outlined in their holy book, that orders them to use everything available to them to accomplish conquest, install sharia law & put all lands under Islam; is to let the US become the present day UK, Netherlands or France.

 

BTW: I don't read Robert Spencer, but I know who he is; and I respect him & Pam Gellar for their fight against the Ground Zero mosque. I don't consider that simplistic idiocy or demagoguery.....I consider it patriotism, and I'm not ashamed of that, either.

 

I think you (and many other good fine Conservative) don't seem to grasp what kind of war this is, and the time frame we are looking at.

This is a global guerrilla war, and that means "Hearts and Minds". First and above all it must be said that Hearts and Minds is not squishy namby pamby "can't we all just get along" kind of thing, unless people think that what went on in Al Anbar was namby pamby. It's a hard tough ting and most of the time you don't know you've won until it's over. (See David Kilcullen's The Accidental Guerrilla, or Jim Michael's A Chance In Hell)

Time Frame

I like to look at it this way, it's 1952 and the cold war is just getting going....or to be more historically accurate how long did it take the USSR to fall? At best this is the time frame we are looking at...to quote George Bush "this is a generational conflict." (see Winning the Long War: Lessons from the Cold War for Defeating Terrorism and Preserving Freedom James Carafano & Paul Rosenzweig0

There is a crisis in Islam as Bernard Lewis has said, and this war is part of this crisis. (see Fawaz Gerges's Near Enemy Far Enemy or Lawrence Wright's The Looming Tower.)

 

 

As for what is happening in Pakistan & Indonesia now, What we see in both places is what I am talking about.

Pakistan: some good, some bad....ok mostly bad from our perspective.

Good: Given the nature of Pakistan and how there army is set up, there mere fact that they are fighting as good as they are is surprising. There really is no nation of Pakistan in spite of what the maps may say, what we see here is a collection of tribes that don't like each other very much. It's an artificial nation and nothing would surprise me less than to see it break up sometime in the next hundred years.

Bad: There is a war going on inside the Pakistan government in particular is various security services, and by war I mean sometimes people are killed.(Think of it this way, what would it be like if the FBI and he US Marshall service started fighting over what to do with the KKK. That's part of the problem in Pakistan. Another problem is the Pakistan government is weak where it should be strong (infrastructure building) and strong where it should be weaker (oppressing the Pakistanis, and endemic corruption)

 

Indonesia: What we see here is a case of exactly what David Kilcullen talks about in his fine book. a series of local insurrections that have been taken over by the Salafits. National Anti-Terrorism Agency and Detachment 88 have done some very fine work in dismantling groups such as Jemaah Islamiyah and capturing/killing many of the top leaders of the Islamic terrorist groups.

You will notice that in elections there (and by 3rd world standards they are really fair) the radicals don't win very much.

So while yes there are problem there, what is really happening in Indonesia should give us cause for hope.

 

 

 

The whole series is available on Vimo Click Here

 

 

A couple of last thoughts...

1.In looking at this subject I see two opposite problems. On one side any criticism of Islam/Muslims (no matter what) is denounced as Islamiphobia/hate speech. This is found primarily on the left. Any positive comments/articles about Islam/Muslims is seen as surrendering to the terrorists and you will be accused of dhimmitude. This is found primarily on the right. Both sides are wrong and for the very same reason..simplistic thinking. Both sides set up straw men and then feel real good about themselves after knocking it down.

 

2. We must in dealing with this remember what scripture says...we are to be wise as serpents harmless as doves. We should keep in mind just who we are fighting, who we are fighting over, and what the goal/prize is.

[kevindavis]

I would like to add something.. I don't hate the people who practice Islam. I'm not a big fan of the religion nor would I convert to Islam. I respect the right of people to practice whatever religion they wish to practice. I just don't trust Islam unless the religion goes through a reformation like Christianity did.

 

 

Have you considered that this war is exactly that? A battle to see weather or not Islam will survive as one of the great religions of the world, or weather it will simply disappear.

The way I have come to view this war is it is a civil war inside Islam, and we are collateral damage. The reason we (the forces of civilization) will win is they (Salafis/Khomeinist/Wahhabis) offer only death or a return to the long dead past.

 

The question should always be asked....does this (what ever this is) harm or help the Salafis/Khomeinist/Wahhabis forces, )or as I prefer to call them The Bad Guys) arrayed against us? The forces fighting against "The Bad Guys' are out there...everywhere you care to look...(see the Green Revolution in Iran as but one example)

 

Two new books about what I am and have been talking about for some time....

The Coming Revolution: Struggle for Freedom in the Middle East

(I've not read it....yet, but it's at the top of my list)

 

And

 

The Next Founders: Voices of Democracy in the Middle East

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U7HKNHMHVk

 

 

C-Span link here

 

Valin,

 

That is how I see it.. You got the radical Muslims who want to take over the world and force people to be Muslim and force Muslims to follow in their own direction.. It is basically radical Islam vs the world.

[Valin]

kevindavis

 

That is how I see it.. You got the radical Muslims who want to take over the world and force people to be Muslim and force Muslims to follow in their own direction.. It is basically radical Islam vs the world.

 

 

NO NO NO! as all true blue right thinking yankee doddle dandy Americans know all Muslims want to kill us or enslave us and force us to eat Fig Newtons without any milk.