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Supporters of former President Donald Trump hold flags in front of his home at Mar-A-Lago on August 8, 2022 in Palm Beach, Florida. Eva Marie Uzcategui/Getty Images

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I don't normally pay that much attention to Trump Rallies (seen one seen them all). The NEXT Rally however is going to be a Barn Burner A Massive Trumpapalooza!

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Three quick thoughts on what we know about Mar-a-Lago raid so far

Conn Carroll, Commentary Editor

August 09, 2022

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Given these few facts, here are some initial thoughts.

First, given the unprecedented nature of the raid, Department of Justice officials need to be forthcoming with as many details about the raid as quickly as possible. What specifically were they looking for? Why were they looking for it? Why couldn’t they have negotiated with Trump’s lawyers to obtain what they were looking for?

Second, this has been manna from heaven politically for Trump. After a rough summer of Jan. 6 revelations that had Republican primary voters looking beyond 2020, this raid has the potential to turn Trump into a martyr. When the Department of Justice chooses to ignore Hunter Biden’s laptop and lets far-left activists harass Supreme Court justices in their homes, they better have a very good reason to take such a strong interest in a possible violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2071.

Third, no matter what you hear from hack Democratic lawyers, even if Trump was convicted of mishandling documents under 18 U.S.C. § 2071, that would not disqualify him from running for president. The Constitution sets the requirements for who is qualified to run for president, and mishandling classified documents is not listed as a bar to the office.

Yes, 18 U.S.C. § 2071 does say those convicted under the statute are “disqualified from holding any office under the United States,” but Congress does not have the authority to change the requirements for who can run for president. That would require a constitutional amendment.

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Trump supporters descend on Mar-a-Lago following FBI raid[

Misty Severi, Breaking News Reporter

August 09, 2022

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Stickers in support of former President Donald Trump are displayed on the trunk of a sports utility vehicle parked on South Ocean Boulevard near Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., late Monday, Aug. 8, 2022. The FBI has searched the estate as part of an investigation into whether he took classified records from the White House to his Florida residence. (Andres Leiva/The Palm Beach Post via AP)

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A man who declined to provide his name stands by a flag expressing support for former President Donald Trump near his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., Monday, Aug. 8, 2022. The FBI has searched the estate as part of an investigation into whether he took classified records from the White House to his Florida residence. (Andres Leiva/The Palm Beach Post via AP)

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Supporters of former President Donald Trump drive past his Mar-a-Lago estate, Monday, Aug. 8, 2022, in Palm Beach, Fla. Trump said in a lengthy statement that the FBI was conducting a search of his Mar-a-Lago estate and asserted that agents had broken open a safe. (AP Photo/Terry Renna)

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DEMS CUOMO, YANG DECRY RAID

  • Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said the raid of Trump’s home could “undermine” the legitimacy of the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) broader investigations into the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
  • “DOJ must immediately explain the reason for its raid & it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or it will be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation & legitimacy of January 6 investigations,” Cuomo tweeted.
  • And former Democratic presidential candidate and businessman Andrew Yang said that it will be “excellent campaign material” for Trump, who has yet to officially announce a run in 2024.
  • “It looks increasingly like the FBI raid was to find mishandled classified documents and not some other DOJ investigation which was my first thought. Mishandling documents doesn’t seem like raid material,” Yang tweeted.
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How the FBI's Raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago Was Viewed by Millions of Americans

After all that, the safe at Mar-a-Lago was empty. It was pried open by FBI agents who swarmed the premises under the pretense that they were looking for documents marked for preservation by the National Archives. Does anyone believe that? 

 

The FBI's raid on the former president's home was not over boxes of documents. If you think that, please, get some crack cocaine, White Claws, and wallow in total ignorance in an observation tank while high as a kite. This line about the documents is politburo stuff, except we're not the Soviet Union. The FBI was there to find Russian collusion material they know doesn't exist. 

Top officials at the J. Edgar Hoover Building have known since day one that the Steele dossier, the catalyst for this myth, was a Democrat-funded opposition research project. It might as well have come in a file that read, "Hillary Clinton paid for this." Now, the FBI's credibility, the last sliver of it, has been incinerated with this raid that juiced MAGA nation like no other. 

What happened last night was a social media meme come to life. President Trump's image is accompanied by the text, "In reality; they're not after me. They're after you. I'm just in the way." :snip:

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5 hours ago, Geee said:

DEMS CUOMO, YANG DECRY RAID

  • And former Democratic presidential candidate and businessman Andrew Yang said that it will be “excellent campaign material” for Trump, who has yet to officially announce a run in 2024.

 

Its a long time until the GOP primary race Really get going (this time next yea?) But This just helped Donald Trump a Great Deal When he chooses to run. Particually if it fizzles out as i suspect it will.

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Justice Department should have subpoenaed documents, not raided Trump’s home

Alan M. Dershowitz, opinion contributor

08/09//22

The decision by the Justice Department to conduct a full-scale morning raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home does not seem justified, based on what we know as of now. If it is true that the basis of the raid was the former president’s alleged removal of classified material from the White House, that would constitute a double standard of justice. 

There were no raids, for example, on the homes of Hillary Clinton or former Clinton administration national security adviser Sandy Berger for comparable allegations of mishandling official records in the recent past. Previous violations of the Presidential Records Act typically have been punished by administrative fines, not criminal prosecution. Perhaps there are legitimate reasons for applying a different standard to Trump’s conduct, but those are not readily obvious at this stage.

The more appropriate action would have been for a grand jury to issue a subpoena for any boxes of material that were seized and for Trump’s private safe that was opened. That would have given Trump’s lawyers the opportunity to challenge the subpoena on various grounds — that some of the material was not classified; that previous classified material was declassified by Trump; that other documents may be covered by various privileges, such as executive or lawyer-client

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FBI searched Melania’s wardrobe, spent hours in Trump’s private office during Mar-a-Lago raid

Miranda Devine

August 9, 2022 8:15pm

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Mar-a-Lago is closed for the season and only a skeleton staff, including groundskeepers, were present during Monday’s raid.

Access to the 20-acre private country club is believed to have been granted by heavily armed US Secret Service (USSS) agents stationed at the front gates and toting M4 carbines. Lawyers for the former president, who were caught off guard by the raid, arrived an hour later.

The FBI would not have executed a warrant without notifying the Secret Service first, according to a retired high ranking USSS agent.

“USSS legal counsel probably would’ve directed [them] to see copy of warrant and then step back.”

Once inside the air-conditioned, white marble-clad private quarters, agents fanned out to search every room, while shocked staff were instructed by Trump’s lawyers to unlock doors and provide the FBI access to every room, including the sumptuous Versailles Master Bedroom, renovated by Melania two years ago.

Another group of agents, including a professional safe cracker, moved to a separate part of the enormous 1924 Spanish stucco building to search Trump’s office and safe.

The demeanor of the three DOJ lawyers who accompanied the FBI was described by one eyewitness as “arrogant,” and they repeatedly told Trump representatives: “We have full access to everything. We can go everywhere.”

Despite the sweltering 91 degrees temperature Monday, Trump’s lawyers were forbidden by the feds to shelter inside the cool lobby, or to observe the search in any way, but were left outside in the baking sun near a parking lot.

The feds instructed Trump’s representatives to switch off the security cameras but they refused.

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19 minutes ago, Geee said:

Conflict Of Interest Much? Garland Oversees Raid On President Who Denied Him SCOTUS Seat

 

Garland’s persecution of a political enemy is disqualifying not just on a personal level, but disqualifies the legitimacy of the entire Department of Justice and every election it manipulates.

 

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The Department of Justice refused to confirm that Attorney General Garland had personally signed off on Monday’s raid on Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s Palm Beach home, but it seems impossible that such an outrageous move could be made without approval from the top. Since Garland hasn’t fired every agent involved and proclaimed their disgrace from the rooftops, it’s safe to assume the raid had Garland’s blessing — in which case, it was one of the most glaring acts of political revenge in recent memory. How can anyone be expected to believe Garland is acting as a neutral arbiter of justice here?

 

He knew nothing about it, the White House knew nothing about it, Christopher Wray knew nothing about it, No one knew anything about it. It just Happened it sprang fully formed like Athena from the forehead of Zeus.

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Trump Attorneys Spill the Beans on Issues With FBI Raid, Warrant

The attorneys for President Donald Trump are now spilling the beans on some of the issues with the FBI raid of his home and the search warrant.

 

Trump attorney Alina Habba appeared on Fox News with Jesse Watters. She said that they had been cooperating with the National Archives over the records and that this was completely “unconstitutional.” “Our country should be terrified—I am terrified,” Habba exclaimed. She said the FBI went in when he wasn’t even there, and then told his attorneys to leave, that they couldn’t watch or be there. “That doesn’t sound good to me,” she declared.

 

Habba said the agents came in wearing backpacks, and she was concerned that they could have planted things since they were trying to get the attorneys out of there. Habba said she believed this was all part of the effort to try to take Trump down, and that people were “working in tandem” with other efforts.:snip:

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51 minutes ago, Geee said:

Trump Attorneys Spill the Beans on Issues With FBI Raid, Warrant

The attorneys for President Donald Trump are now spilling the beans on some of the issues with the FBI raid of his home and the search warrant.

 

Trump attorney Alina Habba appeared on Fox News with Jesse Watters. She said that they had been cooperating with the National Archives over the records and that this was completely “unconstitutional.” “Our country should be terrified—I am terrified,” Habba exclaimed. She said the FBI went in when he wasn’t even there, and then told his attorneys to leave, that they couldn’t watch or be there. “That doesn’t sound good to me,” she declared.

 

Habba said the agents came in wearing backpacks, and she was concerned that they could have planted things since they were trying to get the attorneys out of there. Habba said she believed this was all part of the effort to try to take Trump down, and that people were “working in tandem” with other efforts.:snip:

 

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Now, here’s Trump attorney Christina Bobb on Real America’s Voice. She was the attorney who was on site. She explains that they initially wouldn’t even let her see the warrant, but then did; they were reluctant to let them have it. It’s not clear from what she says if they ultimately were able to obtain it at some point. She also explained that the probable cause for the warrant was sealed, so that they can’t even know what it was unless they go to court to find out.

 

EXCUSE ME! :blink:

 

The longer the DOJ waits to release the Search Warrant, The Worse this looks...and it already looks Really Bad.

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On 8/9/2022 at 5:02 AM, Geee said:

Marc Elias boasts about the real motive behind the FBI’s Mar-a-Lago raid

Marc Elias is a very smart man who hooked his wagon to the Hillary Clinton star and has been involved in almost all the attacks against Trump. His allegiances are clear, and he’s incredibly excited about the Justice Department’s decision to sic the FBI on Trump, a former and possibly future president: The main purpose is to keep Trump from being able to run again. That’s it.

 

 

 

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Impeach Joe Biden?

(once again)

1. What Do You Want?

2. How Do You Get It?

3. Then What Happens?

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Boomerang? DOJ admission it over-collected evidence in Trump raid creates new legal drama

Three passports, Privileged documents. A file on a presidential pardon. As evidence surfaces about what FBI agents seized during the raid of former President Donald Trump's estate in Mar-O-Lago, new questions about the real focus of the investigation and new avenues for legal challenges are bubbling to the surface

 

The Justice Department informed Trump's team Monday that agents gathered the former president's passports and are obligated to return them, and that officials are also reviewing seized materials that may be covered by various privileges, multiple sources told Just the News.

DOJ has designated a process for separating materials that could be covered by executive privilege or attorney client privilege and hopes to return such memos to Trump within a couple of weeks, the sources said.:snip:

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DOJ offers Trump his passports back

 

Officials with the Department of Justice offered to return to former President Donald Trump his three seized passports, according to a Monday email shared by a Trump spokesperson.

In the exchange, Jay Bratt, chief of the DOJ's counterintelligence and export control section, corroborated Trump's public claim that authorities had seized three passports from his Mar-a-Lago resort during a raid last week and offered to return them.:snip:

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Greta Van Susteren Shares What You Need to Know About FBI Raid on Trump

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Now let’s look at the process. I don’t care if it’s President Trump, President [Joe] Biden, President [Barack] Obama, [or] President [George W.] Bush, the process should be the same and level-handed for all. This is the way these things are.

Obviously, every story is different, every factual situation, but they subpoenaed the documents from [Trump] in June. They got records, and the Department of Justice wasn’t satisfied. They thought that the president didn’t comply, or there were more records, or they’re hidden or partial, whatever. What would happen is that the Department of Justice would take that subpoena to court, and they present it to the judge to say, “Judge, we have a lawful subpoena, and the president hasn’t complied.”

The president would then have opportunity to his lawyers to say, “Look, we did comply,” or, “The subpoena’s overly broad,” or, “We don’t have the documents,” or whatever.

And the judge would sort through it and resolve the dispute at that point. So both sides would have an opportunity to work it out. That didn’t happen.

What did happen instead was that the Justice Department made a giant leap and waited about eight weeks and went to get a search warrant. And that’s something very different than the subpoena. And with the search warrant, it’s a one-sided deal. Done all the time, there’s nothing illegal about a search warrant. But this is the process.

They went into court and they said, “We need to get a search warrant.” And the president’s not there to say, “Look, I’ve given you everything.” He’s not there to say, “The records aren’t there.” He’s not there to litigate, it’s one-sided.

A subpoena is generally issued when there’s an emergency. You see them often in drug cases, when there’s a pile of cocaine on a kitchen table and you have to hurry and get a search warrant because you can’t litigate the subpoena. Because by the time you litigate the subpoena, the cocaine has been snorted up someone’s nose.

So they get the subpoena on Friday, one-sided; they say it’s an emergency and they say what they want. And they then wait from Friday until Monday to execute it. And that’s where all the lawyers say, “Wait a second. If it was such an emergency, why didn’t you do it on Friday? What makes it an emergency? Did you think the president was going to destroy documents? Well, if you did, he should have done it on Friday.”

So that’s the problem, is that it becomes looking very heavy-handed on the part of the Department of Justice.

They should have litigated the subpoena in June. They chose not to. They jumped to a search warrant five or six weeks later. And then once they get the search warrant about noon on Friday, they don’t bother to execute it until Monday. So what was the urgency?:snip:

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