clearvision Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 NBC News: DENVER – Colorado will not join the growing number of states that have refused to accept Syrian refugees in wake of the Paris terrorist attacks, Gov. John Hickenlooper announced Monday. "We will work with the federal government and Homeland Security to ensure the national verification processes for refugees are as stringent as possible," he wrote in a statement. "We can protect our security and provide a place where the world's most vulnerable can rebuild their lives." Michigan and Alabama were the first states to say they would not accept Syrian refugees in wake of the attacks. They have since been joined by New Hampshire, North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, Mississippi, Arizona, Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas and Massachusetts. --------- @SrWoodchuck @nickydog Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clearvision Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 @pollyannaish @Chickadee I guess you guys have decided you want to roll the dice with the refugees. WA governor says bring them on. 25 states have said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickydog Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geee Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 So Far: Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians (CNSNews.com) – President Obama said Monday that calls from some quarters for the U.S. to admit only Christian refugees from Syria were “shameful,” yet the reality is that today’s refugee system discriminates, not against Syrian Muslims, but against Christians and other non-Muslim minorities. Critics say this is because the federal government relies on the United Nations in the refugee application process – and since Syrian Christians are often afraid to register with the U.N., they and other non-Muslims are left out. Fleeing persecution at the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other jihadist groups, Syrian Christians generally avoid U.N. refugee camps because they are targeted there too. Most refugees considered for resettlement in the U.S. are referred by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR). http://cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/syrian-christians-are-greatest-peril-least-likely-be-admitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 James Woods: How Exactly Will Dems Vet Potential Terrorists - 'Same Way They 'Vetted' the Tsarnaevs?' http://cnsnews.com/blog/mark-judge/james-woods-how-exactly-will-dems-vet-potential-terrorists-same-way-they-vetted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 OBAMA’S FALLACIOUS “RELIGIOUS TEST” ARGUMENT In response to the idea that the U.S. should limit the flow of Syrian refugees into this country to Christians, President Obama had this to say: That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have a religious test for our compassion. This sounds good in the abstract. For at least two reasons, however, it is not a persuasive objection to limiting entry to Christians. First, Syrian Christians face persecution from ISIS based on their religion. Syrian Sunnis do not. If ISIS conquers their town, they will not be slaughtered because of who they are. Christians are likely to be. (Alawites might be, but they can relocate to areas controlled by the Assad regime; there is no need for them to leave Syria). Clearly, then, Syrian Christians and Syrian Sunnis are not similarly situated refugees. As Jonathan Tobin explains: [T]he question of viewing Christian refugees from ISIS differently from that of Muslims is not so much a question of a religious test as it is of understanding the reality of the conflict. After all, in the 1930s and 40s it should have been permissible for American officials to view Jewish refugees from Nazi-occupied territory differently from those of, say, non-Jewish Germans who sought to flee Europe. . . . http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/obamas-fallacious-religious-test-argument.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 There is no real vetting and there is no tracking once they are here. They are free to move about the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyM Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 There is no real vetting and there is no tracking once they are here. They are free to move about the country. ....and eligible for more entitlements than most (or all) the US citizens on this forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickadee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 @pollyannaish @Chickadee I guess you guys have decided you wanted to roll the dice with the refugees. WA governor says bring them on. 25 states have said no. I rolled over in my grave when I heard this. (Having died already several times over western Washington's grossly liberal politics.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 There is no real vetting and there is no tracking once they are here. They are free to move about the country. What Could Possibly Go Wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Dems Plot State-Level Strategy to Pressure GOP Governors on Refugees A prominent Democratic lawmaker met with the head of a progressive state-level advocacy group on Tuesday to plot ways to undermine Republican governors who have resisted federal efforts to relocate Syrian refugees to their states, according to sources present at the meeting. In a conversation at a Capitol Hill coffee shop on Tuesday afternoon, Rep. Joaquin Castro (D., Texas) and Nick Rathod, head of the State Innovation Exchange, discussed the need to enlist Democratic mayors to put political pressure on those governors. “The mayor of Boston, the mayor of Houston, those guys could be fighting against their governors,” said Castro. “You can push the states in a more progressive direction from the cities.” Castro also cited Newark, “another place where you can score some points against a prominent Republican governor.” Rathod suggested Detroit due to its high numbers of Muslim immigrants. That city’s mayor “should be standing up and sticking it to the Michigan governor,” he said. The conversation was transcribed and relayed to the Washington Free Beacon by an individual who overheard the meeting. Another source who was also present for the conversation confirmed the account. Both spoke on condition of anonymity. http://freebeacon.com/politics/dems-plot-state-level-strategy-to-pressure-gop-governors-on-refugees/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Rep. Keith Ellison defends Muslim Syrian refugees’ First Amendment rights http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/18/rep-keith-ellison-defends-muslim-syrian-refugees-f/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 On Wednesday, Belgian media reported that the Abdeslam brothers were interrogated by Belgian police before the Paris attacks but they were released because “they did not show signs of possible menace,” according to a police official cited by the Belgian newspaper Le Soir. So real terrorists were interrogated and released and we are to believe that screening refugees by mainly a sit down question answer session (supposedly most don't have documents and there are no major Syrian databases) will work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 On Wednesday, Belgian media reported that the Abdeslam brothers were interrogated by Belgian police before the Paris attacks but they were released because “they did not show signs of possible menace,” according to a police official cited by the Belgian newspaper Le Soir. So real terrorists were interrogated and released and we are to believe that screening refugees by mainly a sit down question answer session (supposedly most don't have documents and there are no major Syrian databases) will work? You sound so.........scepitcal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Rep. Keith Ellison defends Muslim Syrian refugees’ First Amendment rights http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/18/rep-keith-ellison-defends-muslim-syrian-refugees-f/ See Nothing To Worry About. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Wait, did she say TERRORISTS brought into this country MAYBE AMERICANIZE and don't attack us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 How much you want to bet none get moved into Dr. Kahl's neighborhood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Wait, did she say TERRORISTS brought into this country MAYBE AMERICANIZE and don't attack us? Congratulations, your hearing is prefect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 EXCLUSIVE — REPORT: 8 Syrians Caught at Texas Border in Laredo LINK nothing to see here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 @pollyannaish @Chickadee I guess you guys have decided you want to roll the dice with the refugees. WA governor says bring them on. 25 states have said no. Not thrilled about this since many of them will be within two hours of us and in areas that, to be honest, don't have the infrastructure to make this work well. I'm not overly worried about attacks here as much as the complex logistics. Unless tactics are seriously changed, any attacks would probably be on the west side. That said, I have disliked our governor for decades. He is an ambitious social climbing....better stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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