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Obamacare Rollout Special Edition Stamp Set: http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=206109

 

 

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Chalupa - October 1st, 2013

 

Those must be forever stamps – that’s how long it’s going to take to clean this mess up.

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C Steven Tucker on Fox News Business

 

“How will Barack Obama HIDE the MASSIVE cost of Obamacare approved health insurance? And, how much out of pocket expense will you be exposed to? I broke it down using my ‘Anti-Establishment White Board’ on the Fox Business television network today.”

See video here: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2707345989001/main-street-talks-health-care/?playlist_id=937116503001

 

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C Steven Tucker on Fox News Business

 

“How will Barack Obama HIDE the MASSIVE cost of Obamacare approved health insurance? And, how much out of pocket expense will you be exposed to? I broke it down using my ‘Anti-Establishment White Board’ on the Fox Business television network today.”

See video here: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2707345989001/main-street-talks-health-care/?playlist_id=937116503001

 

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A White Board? Racism!!!

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When Tip Did It

Tip ONeill presided over two-thirds of the government shutdowns since 1976.

Andrew Stiles

10/2/13

 

The government shut down on October 1 for the 18th time since 1976, after the House and Senate could not agree on a resolution to fund it. Democrats have accused Republicans of negotiating with a bomb strapped to their chest and putting a gun to everybodys head, as if it were an anomalous development in the modern political era for Congress to seek to extract policy concessions from the White House by withholding spending authorization. The resulting shutdown, Democrats now suggest, is as unprecedented as it is deplorable. Or, in the words of one esteemed liberal, it is the end result of a 50-year GOP push to make govt = welfare and welfare = black people.

 

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At this point in Ronald Reagans second term, for example, the government had already shut down six times, for a total of twelve days, as a result of failed budget negotiations between the White House, a Republican Senate, and House Democrats under the leadership of Speaker Tip ONeill (D., Mass.) precisely the opposite of the political dynamic that exists today. Former ONeill staffer and MSNBC pundit Chris Matthews has written an entire book extolling that era as a time when politics worked. (You can probably guess how he feels about the current situation.)

 

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Of course, the current scenario is unique given the controversy surrounding Obamacare legislation of historical scope that was passed in partisan fashion and remains unpopular, notwithstanding the reelection of its namesake. Perhaps if the situation were reversed, House Democrats would never be so irresponsible as to allow the government to shut down. History suggests otherwise.

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President Obamas Umbrage

Editorial of The New York Sun

October 1, 2013

 

The umbrage that is being taken by President Obama at the refusal of the Congress to fund his next year is quite something. The moment deserves to be described with greater clarity than has been the case so far. This struck us in the run-up to the so-called shutdown, when the politicians and the press, for that matter were talking about the desire of the House to defund Obamacare.

 

The phrasing makes us wonder whether we missed something. Is it the case that Obamacare had been funded and that the Congress was taking away money thats already been authorized and appropriated? It strikes us that the more accurate way to put things would be not that Congress was de-funding Obamacare but that Congress was refusing to fund Obamacare in first place. Or even that the Congress was refusing to borrow money to fund Obamacare in the first place.

 

Our fiscal crisis, of course, involves more than Obamacare. It is a case of President Obama getting ahead of his sources of funding. He is like the buyer of a house who put down money without a financing contingency only to act as if he has been done an injustice when the financing fails to materialize. This was never more evident than in Mr. Obamas bizarre statement in the White House press room last night, when he suggested that the Congress somehow has a constitutional responsibility to pass his budget.

 

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H/T Michael Ledeen

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If they have this much fun with a CR over the budget, can you imagine the fun we are going to witness when the Debt-Limit talks come up?

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Harry Reid: 'Why Would We Want To' Help One Kid With Cancer?

 

 

Posted without comment due to being speechless.

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Video: McDonald’s Employee Admits Being Paid $15 By SEIU To Protest WWII Veterans…

 

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/10/02/video-mcdonalds-employee-admits-being-paid-15-by-seiu-to-protest-wwii-veterans/

 

. . . After about an hour about 20 SEIU protesters arrived on the scene chanting “Boehner get us back to work” and claiming they were federal employees furloughed because of the shutdown.

 

In the video below these protesters were marching towards the press gaggle and I was asking them to show their federal IDs to prove they were in fact federal workers. No one wore their Federal Employee ID and none would provide it to prove their claim.

 

Then, remarkably, a guy carrying sign passed by wearing a McDonald’s employee shirt, which I noted. I then began asking them how much they had been paid to protest,

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More here: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/10/02/exclusive-video-mcdonalds-employee-admits-being-paid-15-to-protest-ww2-veterans/

 

 

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David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog
Once again, Washington is a 13-year old brat trashing his own room because you won't give him a credit card.

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October 1

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Tom Tarantino

Government Shutdown FAQ

 

In the News Last Updated: 18:00 October 2nd with new information regarding tuition assistance-- We have heard from a number of veterans concerned about the impact of a possible government shutdown. The following information is based on the latest guidance from the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). We will update as new information becomes available. Scissors-32x32.png

http://iava.org/blog/government-shutdown-faq

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Doug Kimball
"Rage, Rage Against the Dying..."

October 3, 2013

I have been labeled a squish, not because I’m not a principled conservative, but because I understand that reversing our course from this century long leftist lurch requires governance, not revolution. Principles may be enduring, but they are also, when applied bluntly, naïve and politically unpalatable. If we want to garner enough advocates to gain advantage and alter our country’s course, we need to be practical; that is we need to be political, not stridently principled.

 

Take our immigration problem. We can’t arrest and deport every illegal immigrant; at best, that would be cruel and immoral. Nonetheless, we can all agree, things need to change. Our laws cannot say one thing, while our policies as enforced say quite another. Scissors-32x32.png

 

Which takes me to Obamacare and the current shutdown standoff. My inner squish is willing to “draw the line here; no further” on this one. It is a matter of practical politics, not principle. The House has the power of the purse and it is theirs to used as they see fit. This position forces the Democrats and Obama to stand up for their principles, to highlight their justification for this attempt to rewire health care, health insurance and as much as 30% of all US economic activity. They did not make this case when the law was passed in the dead of night using both political bribery and procedural sleight of hand on a party line vote. They had no idea what was being passed as none had read the bill. In light of Ted Cruz’s filibuster and the Senate’s unwillingness to delay (and face) the law, they must now defend the law they passed. And that is a very tough sell indeed. With each utterance, the reality of Obamacare is settling in and it ain’t pretty. Scissors-32x32.pnghttp://ricochet.com/

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Robert’s Ruling Gave the Right its Roadmap http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=206403#more-206403

 

 

When the United States Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare in 2012, Chief Justice Roberts stance on Obamacare coincides with the intent of the U.S. Constitution, explained by Pease, and the powers between the House and Senate.

 

According to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Obamacare cannot be implemented and is not considered the law of the land, contrary to Democrat claims.

 

Bubba Atkinson of the Independent Journal Review wrote, “Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That is how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place.

 

This is critical.

 

His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything, ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.”

 

“Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax,” said Atkinson. “He struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding.

 

Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — “comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.”

 

Roberts ruled that is a no-no.”

 

When the House attached Obamacare to the legislation in funding the government, it made a mistake in doing so and the funding of Obamacare should have been separate, thereby giving the Senate no power in denying the Houses’ request to defund Obamacare.

 

Pease said, “House opposition to funding Obamacare would have been far more powerful if made a “stand alone” bill not attached to general funding, but it is not. “Stand alone,” having no other parts, would have left the Senate no wiggle or compromise room once it went to them, nor would there be for the Joint Conference Committee thereafter that reconciles any differences between the two houses. There would be nothing to reconcile, Obamacare is merely defunded.”

 

“Still, the intent of the Founding Fathers was to give the people, through their House of Representatives, the power collectively to say no to any proposed federal tax, which she is decidedly doing.”

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More here @ TheExaminer: http://www.examiner.com/article/obamacare-can-be-defunded-without-senate-approval

 

 

 

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War Vets show the world true face behind Obama mask

By Judi McLeodFull Story

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In the end history will remember that it was the league of grandfathers and great grandfathers with time-creased faces—35,000 World War II veterans who dropped the mask on a cruel, self-centered and cold-hearted president, showing the world for once and for all who President Barack Obama really is. Scissors-32x32.png

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58322

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Robert’s Ruling Gave the Right its Roadmap http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=206403#more-206403

 

 

When the United States Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare in 2012, Chief Justice Roberts stance on Obamacare coincides with the intent of the U.S. Constitution, explained by Pease, and the powers between the House and Senate.

 

According to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Obamacare cannot be implemented and is not considered the law of the land, contrary to Democrat claims.

 

Bubba Atkinson of the Independent Journal Review wrote, “Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That is how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place.

 

This is critical.

 

His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything, ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.”

 

“Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax,” said Atkinson. “He struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding.

 

Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — “comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.”

 

Roberts ruled that is a no-no.”

 

When the House attached Obamacare to the legislation in funding the government, it made a mistake in doing so and the funding of Obamacare should have been separate, thereby giving the Senate no power in denying the Houses’ request to defund Obamacare.

 

Pease said, “House opposition to funding Obamacare would have been far more powerful if made a “stand alone” bill not attached to general funding, but it is not. “Stand alone,” having no other parts, would have left the Senate no wiggle or compromise room once it went to them, nor would there be for the Joint Conference Committee thereafter that reconciles any differences between the two houses. There would be nothing to reconcile, Obamacare is merely defunded.”

 

“Still, the intent of the Founding Fathers was to give the people, through their House of Representatives, the power collectively to say no to any proposed federal tax, which she is decidedly doing.”

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More here @ TheExaminer: http://www.examiner.com/article/obamacare-can-be-defunded-without-senate-approval

 

 

 

I like this!

 

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I love it so far, going to read the rest.

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