WestVirginiaRebel Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Fox News: The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment. Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis' home port at Bremerton, Wash., in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment. The Navy said he is not formally relieved of his command of the Stennis strike group but will be replaced by Rear Adm. Troy M. Shoemaker, who will assume command until the investigation is completed. It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment. The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of "inappropriate leadership judgment" that arose during the strike group's deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation. The Stennis group deployed from Bremerton in late August and had entered the Navy 5th Fleet's area of operations in the Middle East on Oct. 17 after sailing across the Pacific. The Stennis made port visits in Thailand and Malaysia on its way to the Middle East. It deployed four months earlier than scheduled in response to a request by the commander of U.S. Central Command, Marine Gen. James Mattis, to maintain two aircraft carriers in the Middle East. The Stennis replaced the USS Enterprise carrier group. ________ More Libya fallout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Gen. Carter F. Ham, commander of the U.S. Africa Command was replaced today, or yesterday, too. All of the players being replaced. It is alleged that Ham was going to ignore the order to stand down and was going to send help. His second in command relieved him, I guess on orders from above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I think he was replaced on the 18th. Did not get much press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudjo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I would like to know why O and his group were so determined not to stop this, it appears they did not want these people saved, why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm starting to believe it was about the arms deals and those 20,000 or so missiles that can take down planes. Fast and Furious all over again. But who knows. I hope we find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudjo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I would really like all of this stuff to come out before election night, he has got to be stopped 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 This stinks to high heaven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm starting to believe it was about the arms deals and those 20,000 or so missiles that can take down planes. Fast and Furious all over again. But who knows. I hope we find out. But didn't the initial rioters raid all of Qaddafi's arsenals and clean out all of the weapons? Wouldn't it be those that are finding there way all around the M.E.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argyle58 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 This is beginning to look like a major scandal brewing. With a coverup this massive, something much worse than we thought had to have happened. The administration would not act this blatantly rash, however, if they weren't so sure of the press. The MSM are now participating as accomplices, admittedly not covering the story "because it has nothing to do with the election". It should not matter to which party the Administration belongs to, this should be a major story on every network. When the media willingly and voluntarily cavorts with despots, our whole way of life is at a greater risk than any of us could have even guessed. This goes way beyond a mere difference in political philosophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTexan Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Maybe The Zero forgot that we had things called aircraft carriers and other things that go under the water. We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater -- nuclear submarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggingtree Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 October 28, 2012 Has General Ham Been Fired? Mike Johnson Has General Carter F. Ham, commander of U.S. Africa Command, been fired for defying Leon Panetta on Benghazi? Glenn Reynolds, the Instapundit, ran a piece Saturday afternoon titled "Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order." This piece is presented as a rumor. It suggests that General Ham was told to stand down from sending aid to Benghazi, that General Ham on his own decided to proceed, and that he was then relieved of his command. Remember, all rumor at this point. On 18 October 2012, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta participated in a "DOD News Briefing on Efforts to Enhance the Financial Health of the Force." In his introductory remarks, Mr. Panetta said: "Today I am very pleased to announce that President Obama will nominate General David Rodriguez to succeed General Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command . . ." Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/has_general_ham_been_fired.html#ixzz2AbMXTSNf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggingtree Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/26/12 at 9:45 p.m.) I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below. quote: "(The) basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on; without having some real-time information about what's taking place," Panetta told Pentagon reporters. "And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation." The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready. General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command. The story continues http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/37144547/Interesting-Rumor-Concerning-General-Carter-Ham-and-Stand-Down-Order.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Bret Baier @BretBaier multiple sources incldg Gen Ham himself say the report that he was relieved of his cmd over Benghazi, or anything else, are NOT true - 1/2. Bret Baier @BretBaier 2/2 it was a long scheduled change of command at AFRICOM announced on Oct 19...We are digging on all fronts but we will always be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raygun Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 What I want to know is why y'all are so determined to read SO MUCH GARBAGE INTO this? For crying out loud: am I the only sane individual in this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 What I want to know is why y'all are so determined to read SO MUCH GARBAGE INTO this? For crying out loud: am I the only sane individual in this country? Define 'sane'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raygun Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 R U for series? I gots rumor! GWB was booted from Tx ANG because he was a fool. I gots paper trail! Dick-head lost his job because of that crap! Now: let me scream a bit louder! Its not the accuracy of what we report, its the god damned seriousness of our allegations that matter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raygun Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Sane = Dan Rather inSane = Raygun "Just because what we reported was inaccurate doen't mean it was false." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 What I want to know is why y'all are so determined to read SO MUCH GARBAGE INTO this? For crying out loud: am I the only sane individual in this country? Yes, yes you are. We, the non sane people, have decided telepathically, that you should now rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How is your father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raygun Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 My apologies to all readers: I meant all that nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raygun Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 By definition: that's nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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