Geee Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Investors Business Daily:Environmentalism: As the light bulb phaseout goes into effect, you may be surprised to know the law also requires their already-costly replacements to be phased out too.That's right, new light bulb efficiency standards set by Washington also mandate light bulbs become 70% more efficient than classic bulbs by 2020. The only bulbs that meet that higher standard are light-emitting diodes, or LEDs. And they are even more expensive than compact fluorescent lamps.CFLs will replace incandescent bulbs to meet the first level of efficiency that's been widely reported in the media. By 2014, household bulbs using between 40 and 100 watts will need to consume at least 28% less energy under a stupid law passed by Congress in 2007.But a little-noticed provision of the law, known as the Energy Independence and Security Act, also sets a second efficiency goal of 70% that must be met nationwide by 2020.LEDs already exceed that goal. But an LED replacement for a 50-cent, 60-watt incandescent bulb costs as much as $60. No doubt costs will drop by 2020.But it's yet another unnecessary federal mandate looming on the horizon for consumers — many of whom are perfectly happy with their old bulbs.The federal regulation effectively bans those bulbs by halting their manufacture. Major bulb makers have already made the plant investments to follow the law.As of Jan. 1, traditional 100-watt bulbs no longer meet standards, and are no longer stocked in stores. Starting next January, the 75-watt incandescent bulb also will be phased out, followed by the 60-watt version in 2014.Listen to the PodcastSubscribe through iTunesThe Energy Dept. claims each household can save $50 a year in electricity by replacing 15 traditional bulbs. But the costs of the new CFLs exceed those savings. And they'll only get worse with LEDs.Here's what's really crazy: Two years before it banned classic bulbs in favor of mercury vapor CFLs, Congress passed a law banning mercury vapor streetlights. Under the Energy Policy Act of 2005, manufacturers cannot make or import ballasts for mercury vapor lights after Jan. 1, 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righteousmomma Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This lightbulb scam makes me feel totally helpless and frustrated. I was googling for more info and came across lightbulb jokes. Since its better to light a candle than curse the darkness here is one joke said to be based on a true story - only NCT said I had to add to it "the rest of the story" Q: How many independent wives does it take to change a light bulb. A: Only one however it will take her several hours because while she has the ladder up she will have to wash glass cover in the light fitting and then dust the cupboard tops because they can be seen from there and if there is time also paint the ceiling....while NCT is holding the ladder the whole time [based on a true story.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geee Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 This lightbulb scam makes me feel totally helpless and frustrated. I was googling for more info and came across lightbulb jokes. Since its better to light a candle than curse the darkness here is one joke said to be based on a true story - only NCT said I had to add to it "the rest of the story" Q: How many independent wives does it take to change a light bulb. A: Only one however it will take her several hours because while she has the ladder up she will have to wash glass cover in the light fitting and then dust the cupboard tops because they can be seen from there and if there is time also paint the ceiling....while NCT is holding the ladder the whole time [based on a true story.] I can so understand that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickydog Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This lightbulb scam makes me feel totally helpless and frustrated. I was googling for more info and came across lightbulb jokes. Since its better to light a candle than curse the darkness here is one joke said to be based on a true story - only NCT said I had to add to it "the rest of the story" Q: How many independent wives does it take to change a light bulb. A: Only one however it will take her several hours because while she has the ladder up she will have to wash glass cover in the light fitting and then dust the cupboard tops because they can be seen from there and if there is time also paint the ceiling....while NCT is holding the ladder the whole time [based on a true story.] I can so understand that! Oh yes, me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argyle58 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 As much as I hate CFLs, I hate the LEDs even more. The quality of the light is simply too harsh. The only advantage I can see in them over CFL's is that they will work on a dimmer switch. Having said that, GIVE ME BACK MY INCANDESCENTS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righteousmomma Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 As much as I hate CFLs, I hate the LEDs even more. The quality of the light is simply too harsh. The only advantage I can see in them over CFL's is that they will work on a dimmer switch. Having said that, GIVE ME BACK MY INCANDESCENTS!! DITTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyM Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 As much as I hate CFLs, I hate the LEDs even more. The quality of the light is simply too harsh. The only advantage I can see in them over CFL's is that they will work on a dimmer switch. Having said that, GIVE ME BACK MY INCANDESCENTS!! DITTO Double DITTO!! I have started my own personal cache of incandescent bulbs in my basement. I absolutely hate the CFLs and LEDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickydog Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I, too, have a cache to which I intend to add until I can't get them anymore. My Portland daughter saw it and looked puzzled until her more conservative husband explained. She looked at me with total incomprehension on her face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveliberty Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 As much as I hate CFLs, I hate the LEDs even more. The quality of the light is simply too harsh. The only advantage I can see in them over CFL's is that they will work on a dimmer switch. Having said that, GIVE ME BACK MY INCANDESCENTS!! DITTO Stock up on the incandescents before the stores sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righteousmomma Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I have been buying more. I keep reading that it will be illegal to use them! True?? or Urban legend? Has our beloved Nation descended that far - the United Socialist States of America? Edited to say - Christmas all the stores from Target to Ace Hardware to whatever had LEDs on their shelves. I saw a few around town and on outside decorations -- Very bright and "cold" . A strand on my outside door garland (reg. mini bulbs) burned out a few days before Christmas so I went all over town looking for a short clear white minibulb strand. NADA - sold out! Finally found one box, happily took it to the cash register and was told that will be $22.00 versus about the $5.00 I expected to hear. Yep, had inadvertently picked up an LED strand. NO THANK YOU! In all the stores I visited LEDs were only ones left -- too expensive (I heard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveliberty Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I have been buying more. I keep reading that it will be illegal to use them! True?? or Urban legend? Has our beloved Nation descended that far - the United Socialist States of America? Edited to say - Christmas all the stores from Target to Ace Hardware to whatever had LEDs on their shelves. I saw a few around town and on outside decorations -- Very bright and "cold" . A strand on my outside door garland (reg. mini bulbs) burned out a few days before Christmas so I went all over town looking for a short clear white minibulb strand. NADA - sold out! Finally found one box, happily took it to the cash register and was told that will be $22.00 versus about the $5.00 I expected to hear. Yep, had inadvertently picked up an LED strand. NO THANK YOU! In all the stores I visited LEDs were only ones left -- too expensive (I heard) That seems to be urban legend, RM! It is my understanding that the law was a restriction on sales in the US. The law allows vendors to sell their stock. In reporting on the repeal at the dreaded FoxNews, the story focuses on overturning the ban on sales, not use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickydog Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I have been buying more. I keep reading that it will be illegal to use them! True?? or Urban legend? Has our beloved Nation descended that far - the United Socialist States of America? Edited to say - Christmas all the stores from Target to Ace Hardware to whatever had LEDs on their shelves. I saw a few around town and on outside decorations -- Very bright and "cold" . A strand on my outside door garland (reg. mini bulbs) burned out a few days before Christmas so I went all over town looking for a short clear white minibulb strand. NADA - sold out! Finally found one box, happily took it to the cash register and was told that will be $22.00 versus about the $5.00 I expected to hear. Yep, had inadvertently picked up an LED strand. NO THANK YOU! In all the stores I visited LEDs were only ones left -- too expensive (I heard) What are they going to do, storm into peoples' houses to check on what light bulbs we're using?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righteousmomma Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 What are they going to do, storm into peoples' houses to check on what light bulbs we're using?! probably - mais oui (Zee 0 et zee liberal demoRats - ils doivent disparaître) et merci, Save! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveliberty Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 What are they going to do, storm into peoples' houses to check on what light bulbs we're using?! probably - mais oui (Zee 0 et zee liberal demoRats - ils doivent disparaître) et merci, Save! pas de quoi, Righteousmomma! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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