The Obama Lie That Drove the Birther Movement

[Geee]

American Thinker:

Newly released documents from Barack Obama Sr.'s immigration file, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, justify "birther" doubts about the nativity story on which Barack Obama based his presidential campaign.

The documents were posted Thursday in an article by Heather Smathers on the Arizona Independent web site. When I checked with Brian Wedemeyer, the Independent's managing editor, he confirmed, "They are legitimate documents."

A memo dated Aug. 31, 1961, from William Wood of the Immigration and Naturalization Services, does verify that Barack Obama, Sr. fathered a son, Barack Obama II, who was born in Honolulu on Aug, 4, 1961. For the record, most birthers of my acquaintance believe that Obama was born in the United States. That is not their issue.

Wood adds, however, that the child is "living with mother (she lives with her parents & subject resides at 1482 Alencastre St.)." He adds that Obama's citizen spouse plans "to go to Washington State University next semester."

This document thoroughly undermines the Obama nativity story, a story that has been told almost as often as Jesus's but with nowhere near the accuracy. Obama led with it in his 2004 convention speech and repeated it in the first sentence of his 2008 speech.

Friendly biographer David Remnick describes this story as Obama's "signature appeal: the use of the details of his own life as a reflection of a kind of multicultural ideal," and he underscores its essential role in Obama's ascendancy.

As Obama told the story in 2004, his father had grown up in Kenya "herding goats." His mother he traced to Kansas, as he always did. "My parents shared not only an improbable love," Obama continued, "they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation."

[nickydog]

We have a president who blatantly lies and a media that backs him up every step of the way. How long can this go on?

 

I wonder what Michele Bachman's reaction was when George Stephanopoulos waved that certificate of birth in her face.

 

Edited to correct the spelling of difficult names.

Edited April 29, 2011 by nickydog

[Sanguine]

At this point, I don't know whether the birther questions are good questions or not, but I do know that 1) we should never have gotten here - any and all questions about the legal legitimacy of an electee to serve should have been resolved before he was sworn in, and 2) if the birthers are correct and there are real barriers to his being able to "serve"* legally, no one will ever believe it because of all of the misdirection and confusion obscuring the situation, and because of the sheer audacity of it if it were true. Who would ever believe that a candidate would run for POTUS, knowing he was unqualified, but since he had no regard for the American Constitution and legal system simply didn't care about the prequalifications, and then two years on was still successfully obscuring and misdirecting? Naw, couldn't happen.

 

*I realize that our political class no longer "serves" us, in any sense, but I'm old-fashioned so I still use that language.

[Argyle58]

At this point I think whether or not he is eligible to sit in the Office of the President is moot.....even if it can be proven, the PTB seem unwilling to pursue it. This story does, however, illustrate once again the tendency of liberals to re-invent their pasts in order to present a more sympathetic candidate. Zero has been heretofore more successful at it because of the relative obscurity of his background. Hillary tried the same stunt, from working with her mother for illegal immigrant migrant farm workers (in central Illinois during the fifties), to being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, even though she was born two years before he scaled Mt. Everest.

 

Barring some amazing new facts, we are stuck with Zero, for at least the next 20 months or so. But, I hope that the American electorate has learned that, regardless of their ideology, ethnicity, or background, we need to know more about our candidates than we do about our current "leader".

[Pepper]

This is a Constitutional Issue.

 

Obama’s mother didn’t qualify obama to be a US citizen.Obama was the infant of a foreign father. This is the key. His mother had to be physically present in the US 5 years after the age of fourteen. She missed it by 4 months. Obama missed it by 4 months. Obama is an illegal alien.

[SrWoodchuck]

This is a Constitutional Issue.

 

Obama’s mother didn’t qualify obama to be a US citizen.Obama was the infant of a foreign father. This is the key. His mother had to be physically present in the US 5 years after the age of fourteen. She missed it by 4 months. Obama missed it by 4 months. Obama is an illegal alien.

Some thoughts:

 

The "birther" issue would have been used & sanctioned by progressives & the lame stream media.....if John McCain had been elected president.

 

What Pepper said above, is what I have always believed.....not that he was born in Kenya....but that he was unqualified to be president. [This makes me, not a "birther," but a "ineligi-hillbillity," which I gladly accept.] Rule of law needs to be followed in cases where the safety of the nation & it's citizens could be imperilled, let alone the dignity of America. This means there should never have been a scenario where a usurper could not have been required to provide iron-clad & independently verified proof of eligibility, prior to being a candidate.

 

In terms of eligibility, there is yet another area that has not been satisfied by the release of his BC: That of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro. In valid long form federal BC documents there is an area at the bottom, that requires a notation & amendment, if a child is adopted by a foreign national. There is no dual citizenship with Indonesia. If, as claimed, he was adopted....he relinquished citizenship here in the US. This would also explain how he was able to travel to Pakistan in 1981, when US citizens were not allowed to do so.......by using his valid Indonesian passport.... .which has also disappeared into the Obama black-hole [a celestial term.]

 

The Harvard "Constitutional Scholar" has used whatever knowledge permeated his gourd....to destroy that very same document. He hates America......just as most of his blood relations, friends & acquaintences....and has used about every opportunity to damage the American Republic at home & abroad.

 

I suppose it can be considered 'excessive' to continue to insist that Obama abide by rules of fairness, regarding his eligibility, but 300,000,000 million souls are dependent on how our president conducts his business. To that end, I point out that an honorable military officer is sitting in Leavenworth [LTC Terry Lakin] since refusing to be deployed without release of Obama's BC.....[his constitutional right to insist that the C-in-C is lawfully issuing orders]......and Obama could have done so at any time, to satisfy a basic requirement of eligibility.....instead choosing to put a tenuous partial & digitally altered document out of the White House....because "the focus of the public is on his BC, and not more serious problems" which he confirms by.......flying off to an Oprah love-fest & 3 fundraisers....while flying over storm damaged US communities in Air Farce One.

 

In a race to become a New World Order, and Obama needing one more term to flesh out his resume before moving on to greater things......[think: A "Citizen-of-the-World office that is not hampered by term limits].....we are required to be anchored in the reality of the "hopeless-changes" wrought by Obama....while they dictate these changes in an illegal & "Salvador Dali-esque" surreality.[/rant]

[Casino67]

This is a Constitutional Issue.

 

Obama’s mother didn’t qualify obama to be a US citizen.Obama was the infant of a foreign father. This is the key. His mother had to be physically present in the US 5 years after the age of fourteen. She missed it by 4 months. Obama missed it by 4 months. Obama is an illegal alien.

 

Pepper how does this explain 'anchor babies'? The mother comes to the U.S. to have her baby so it will be a citizen here, by your definition the baby would be an 'illegal'.

[Pepper]

This is a Constitutional Issue.

 

Obama’s mother didn’t qualify obama to be a US citizen.Obama was the infant of a foreign father. This is the key. His mother had to be physically present in the US 5 years after the age of fourteen. She missed it by 4 months. Obama missed it by 4 months. Obama is an illegal alien.

 

Pepper how does this explain 'anchor babies'? The mother comes to the U.S. to have her baby so it will be a citizen here, by your definition the baby would be an 'illegal'.

 

 

 

Casino67

 

Two things: first, on that age thing for Obama's mom, the law has changed regarding age - but it did apply to much beloved Stanley Dunham then.

 

Second, do not let The Won, The Carnival Barker distract you. Barack is not an anchor baby. Currently, a baby can become a citizen via anchor birth process (still under dispute) but that baby is NOT A natural born citizen, which is the requirement for President.

 

And anchor baby is not eligible for President. But who can tell? We live in fluid times, we certainly have lost our bearings.

[Casino67]

This is a Constitutional Issue.

 

Obama’s mother didn’t qualify obama to be a US citizen.Obama was the infant of a foreign father. This is the key. His mother had to be physically present in the US 5 years after the age of fourteen. She missed it by 4 months. Obama missed it by 4 months. Obama is an illegal alien.

 

Pepper how does this explain 'anchor babies'? The mother comes to the U.S. to have her baby so it will be a citizen here, by your definition the baby would be an 'illegal'.

 

 

 

Casino67

 

Two things: first, on that age thing for Obama's mom, the law has changed regarding age - but it did apply to much beloved Stanley Dunham then.

 

Second, do not let The Won, The Carnival Barker distract you. Barack is not an anchor baby. Currently, a baby can become a citizen via anchor birth process (still under dispute) but that baby is NOT A natural born citizen, which is the requirement for President.

 

And anchor baby is not eligible for President. But who can tell? We live in fluid times, we certainly have lost our bearings.

 

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

 

Isn't the 'natural born' referring to the 'time of the Adoption of this Constitution'?

 

Then there is the big 'or' a Citizen of the U.S. Doesn't the 0 qualify? He is a citizen, he has lived here 14 years and is 35+.

 

Just askin'.

[Casino67]

Forgot to source.

 

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[nickydog]

This is a Constitutional Issue.

 

Obama’s mother didn’t qualify obama to be a US citizen.Obama was the infant of a foreign father. This is the key. His mother had to be physically present in the US 5 years after the age of fourteen. She missed it by 4 months. Obama missed it by 4 months. Obama is an illegal alien.

Some thoughts:

 

The "birther" issue would have been used & sanctioned by progressives & the lame stream media.....if John McCain had been elected president.

 

What Pepper said above, is what I have always believed.....not that he was born in Kenya....but that he was unqualified to be president. [This makes me, not a "birther," but a "ineligi-hillbillity," which I gladly accept.] Rule of law needs to be followed in cases where the safety of the nation & it's citizens could be imperilled, let alone the dignity of America. This means there should never have been a scenario where a usurper could not have been required to provide iron-clad & independently verified proof of eligibility, prior to being a candidate.

 

In terms of eligibility, there is yet another area that has not been satisfied by the release of his BC: That of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro. In valid long form federal BC documents there is an area at the bottom, that requires a notation & amendment, if a child is adopted by a foreign national. There is no dual citizenship with Indonesia. If, as claimed, he was adopted....he relinquished citizenship here in the US. This would also explain how he was able to travel to Pakistan in 1981, when US citizens were not allowed to do so.......by using his valid Indonesian passport.... .which has also disappeared into the Obama black-hole [a celestial term.]

 

The Harvard "Constitutional Scholar" has used whatever knowledge permeated his gourd....to destroy that very same document. He hates America......just as most of his blood relations, friends & acquaintences....and has used about every opportunity to damage the American Republic at home & abroad.

 

I suppose it can be considered 'excessive' to continue to insist that Obama abide by rules of fairness, regarding his eligibility, but 300,000,000 million souls are dependent on how our president conducts his business. To that end, I point out that an honorable military officer is sitting in Leavenworth [LTC Terry Lakin] since refusing to be deployed without release of Obama's BC.....[his constitutional right to insist that the C-in-C is lawfully issuing orders]......and Obama could have done so at any time, to satisfy a basic requirement of eligibility.....instead choosing to put a tenuous partial & digitally altered document out of the White House....because "the focus of the public is on his BC, and not more serious problems" which he confirms by.......flying off to an Oprah love-fest & 3 fundraisers....while flying over storm damaged US communities in Air Farce One.

 

In a race to become a New World Order, and Obama needing one more term to flesh out his resume before moving on to greater things......[think: A "Citizen-of-the-World office that is not hampered by term limits].....we are required to be anchored in the reality of the "hopeless-changes" wrought by Obama....while they dictate these changes in an illegal & "Salvador Dali-esque" surreality.[/rant]

Very good rant.

[Sanguine]

We do have an historical precedent:

 

Early life and education

 

Chester Alan Arthur was the son of Irish-born preacher William Arthur (born in Cullybackey, Ballymena, County Antrim) and Vermont-born Malvina Stone Arthur. Malvina's grandfather, Uriah Stone, fought for the Continental Army during the American Revolution and named his son, Malvina's father, George Washington Stone. Malvina's mother was part Native American.[2]:4 At the time of the birth of the future president, Arthur's father was an Irish subject of the United Kingdom of Scottish descent, who naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843.[3]

 

 

Most official references list Arthur as having been born in Fairfield in Franklin County, Vermont on October 5, 1829. However, some time in the 1870s Arthur changed it to 1830 to make himself seem a year younger.[2]:5[5] His father had initially migrated to Dunham, Lower Canada, where he and his wife at one point owned a farm about 15 miles (24 km) north of the U.S. border.[2]:4 There has long been speculation that the future president was actually born in Canada and that the family moved to Fairfield later. If Arthur had been born in Canada, some believe that he would not have been a natural-born citizen (interpreting the law to mean that to be a natural-born citizen one must be born on U.S. territory) and would thus have been constitutionally ineligible to serve as vice president or president. During the 1880 U.S. presidential election a New York attorney, Arthur P. Hinman, was hired[by whom?] to explore rumors of Arthur's foreign birth. Hinman alleged that Arthur was born in Ireland and did not come to the United States until he was fourteen years old. When that story failed to take root Hinman came forth with a new story that Arthur was born in Canada. This claim also fell on deaf ears.[2]:202–203 In any case, Arthur's father was not naturalized until some years after his birth, resulting in Arthur having a claim to dual citizenship.[citation needed]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur

[Pepper]

Sanguine

 

There may be precedent, but how many people would have voted for Obama knowing he was NOT a NBC? (Other than the usual 30%) How many people heard of Chester Arthur's background other than some historical scholars and Obama promoters in 2007?

 

Good post, SrWoodChuck, you ineligi-hillbillity, you.

 

 

Casino67

 

 

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

 

or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, " is a non-restrictive appositive phrase. You can remove it and retain the meaning.

 

"No person except a natural born Citizen shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

[Pepper]

SrWoodChuck

 

The Carnival Barker and Side Show expert is Obama. The American people have been bamboozled, beginning with Obama's cultivation by Jesse Jackson many years ago at black conventions and Obama's eligibility approval by Pelosi and Reid.

 

Even Fox has been deluded into worrying about the reality of what the Oval Office presented instead of focusing on ELIGIBILITY.

 

None other than Jean Claude Tremblay speaks:

 

 

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

 

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

 

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/#ixzz1Kxrs7xqN

[Casino67]

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898): In this case, the majority of the Court held that a child born in U.S. territory to parents who were subjects of the emperor of China and who were not eligible for U.S. citizenship, but who had "a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the emperor of China" was a U.S. Citizen.

The Court stated that:

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.'[9]

 

Since the Constitution does not specify what the requirements are to be a "citizen" or a "natural born citizen", the majority adopted the common law of England:

The court ruled:

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born. III. The same rule was in force in all the English colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the constitution as originally established.

 

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