Valin Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Power Line Steven Hayward Oct 31 2022 I listened to all five hours of the Supreme Court oral argument today while on a long car drive home, and am hoping to post a special podcast tomorrow going over the whole scene, but for me, one single moment especially stands out. Seth Waxman, the primary attorney defending Harvard (a former solicitor general under President Clinton), was going head-to-head with Chief Justice John Roberts about whether race is a “minor” factor in admissions, or a decisive factor, as the defenders of race-conscious admissions were trying to have it both ways all day. Let’s just pick up the dialogue in the middle: (Snip) Quote CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Okay. So we’re talking about race as a determining factor in admission to Harvard. MR. WAXMAN: Race in some –for some highly qualified applicants can be the determinative factor, just as being the –you know, an oboe player in a year in which the Harvard-Radcliffe orchestra needs an oboe player will be the tip. CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: Yeah. We did not fight a Civil War about oboe players. I nearly drove off the road in delight at this reply. If the case turns out the right way, I think this will be one of the key moments where Harvard lost the case. ______________________________________________________________________ It appears that Harvard & University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, have spent god knows how much money defending race based admissions because to many Asians are doing too Good, and so they must keep them out. Am I the only one who thinks shades of the KKK? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Justice Kagan Suggests Gender-Neutral Admissions Could Give A Leg Up To ‘White Men’ Over People Who Have Been ‘Kicked In The Teeth’ Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan suggested that gender-neutral admission processes could give “white men” an advantage over people who have been “kicked in the teeth” during an oral argument Monday on a pair of lawsuits deciding whether affirmative action within Harvard University and the University of North Carolina (UNC) is constitutional. During the oral argument for Students for Fair Admissions v. President and Fellows of Harvard, Kagan suggested to Patrick Strawbridge, who is representing Students for Fair Admissions, that higher education institutions that use gender-neutral policies lead to unequal outcomes for men at universities. Kagan noted that “white men” could get a “thumb on the scale” in university admissions if educational institutions sought to address the disparity. “That would be peculiar wouldn’t it?” Kagan said to Strawbridge. “White men get the thumb on the scale, but people who have been kicked in the teeth by our society for centuries do not?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Clarence Thomas: These Arguments in Favor of Affirmative Action Sound Awfully Familiar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 points 1. "Five years from now no one is going to care what college you went to." Dennis Prager 2. Very often a black student will fail at an elite university, where they would succeed at a lesser prestigious university. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Nov 1, 2022 Justice Samuel Alito questions lawyers in Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. University of North Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Oct. 31 2022 H/T Powe Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 ‘Eroding Morale’: Veterans Group Strikes Back At DOD Over Race-Based Admissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 20 hours ago, Valin said: Power Line Steven Hayward Oct 31 2022 I listened to all five hours of the Supreme Court oral argument today while on a long car drive home, and am hoping to post a special podcast tomorrow going over the whole scene, but for me, one single moment especially stands out. Seth Waxman, the primary attorney defending Harvard (a former solicitor general under President Clinton), was going head-to-head with Chief Justice John Roberts about whether race is a “minor” factor in admissions, or a decisive factor, as the defenders of race-conscious admissions were trying to have it both ways all day. Let’s just pick up the dialogue in the middle: (Snip) The Three Whisky Happy Hour: The Supreme Court the Day After Hosted by Steve Hayward With guests "Lucretia" & John Yoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 Quote Mother Jones @MotherJones The Supreme Court's conservative justices seem to be arguing: White people are the real victims; schools should stop trying to remedy their history of segregation and just admit more white people already. https://bit.ly/3fqmnQ0 1:56 PM · Nov 1, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geee Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Alito appears to troll Elizabeth Warren with Native American 'family lore' remarks Alito questioned North Carolina Solicitor General Ryan Park, who defended affirmative action policies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, about what is stopping some students from making false claims about their heritage. It's family lore that we have an ancestor who was an American Indian," Alito said. Park contended that it would not "be accurate" for a student applicant to make such claims if they were not true. But Alito pressed forward, saying, "Well, I identify as an American Indian because I've always been told that some ancestor back in the old days was an American Indian." Park said, "In that circumstance, it would be very unlikely that that person was telling the truth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Flashback: RBG didn’t practice her affirmative action preaching In her 13 years as a lower court judge, she had never hired a black law clerk, secretary, or intern. Over that time, she had 57 employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Geee said: Flashback: RBG didn’t practice her affirmative action preaching In her 13 years as a lower court judge, she had never hired a black law clerk, secretary, or intern. Over that time, she had 57 employees. Well not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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