Casino67 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Time Magazine: In nature, most seals are black, with relatively few white ones. The Navy’s SEALs have exactly the opposite problem – they’re overwhelmingly white, with hardly any blacks. So they’re trying to do something about it. It’s a fundamental challenge in a democracy with an all-volunteer force: recruits may be drawn from all segments of society, but elite military units – and none is more elite these days than the SEALs, following their dispatch of Osama bin Laden last May – tend to draw from small pools of talent. For the SEALs, that includes athletic young men who are smart and good in the water. For whatever reason, that has led to an overwhelmingly white SEAL force. Say the SEALs: Gaps exist in minority representation in both officer and enlisted ranks for Special Warfare operators. Diverse officers represent only ten percent of the officer pool (for example, African Americans represent less than 2% of SEAL officers). Diverse enlisted SEALs account for less than twenty percent of the total SEAL enlisted population. Naval Special Warfare is committed to fielding a force that represents the demographics of the nation it serves. This contract initiative seeks effective strategies to introduce high potential candidates from diverse backgrounds to the opportunities available in Naval Special Warfare. The SEALs are considering hiring help to attract thousands of “minority males in the 16–24 year-old target age range” to become SEALs. “This contract will create a mechanism to enhance Naval Special Warfare’s ability to conduct outreach, raise awareness, mentor, and increase self-selection to a career as a SEAL within minority communities,” a recently-posted draft contract solicitation says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 A. Sounds to me that this is more of a PR campaign. & B. Diversity is a Fact not a Value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokke Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The military has led the nation in desegregation. Unfortunately, it also is its own worst enemy when it lowers its very important standards in an effort to "diversify" its ranks. In short, it gets people killed for the sake of filling quotas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin @Rokke SEALS are a select group, ergo only few make it through SEAL training. Start fooling with mathematics and you end up getting others killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin @Rokke SEALS are a select group, ergo only few make it through SEAL training. Start fooling with mathematics and you end up getting others killed. "Math Is Hard!" Barbie I don't have a problem with trying to recruit minorities into SEALS or any of the Spec Ops org. As along as qualifications are not compromised in any way. These guys have the rep they have for a very good reason....A they don't quit, and they are the best...because they don't quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin Yes, same point: fooling with math by trying to increase the right hand area and you weaken the qualifications of the pool composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin Yes, same point: fooling with math by trying to increase the right hand area and you weaken the qualifications of the pool composition. But it's not fair! I mean it's not fair that no NFL will hire me to be a middle linebacker! I'm 63 weigh 140 soaking wet and have a bad knee, but I really really want to a middle linebacker, so shouldn't that count for something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin And don't mention to the PC crowd that only males can apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin And don't mention to the PC crowd that only males can apply Ahem I could make any number of comments...but that would be wrong....and Rheo would get in her car drive to MPLS and hit me real hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTexan Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Navy Seeking More Minority SEALs Problem solved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokke Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If simply recruiting minorities/women/whatever was the issue, that would be great. The more recruiting the better. However, that is never where it ends. Inevitably, the recruiting "goals" aren't met, and then the standards are changed. Eventually they're ignored. There are kids appointed to the Air Force Academy every year who would barely qualify for their home state university. And then they suck the life and energy out of the institution as its staff and faculty bend over backwards to try to help them succeed. When they don't, they usually take a few of the actually qualified cadets out with them. The net result is a lower quality institution and graduates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTexan Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 If simply recruiting minorities/women/whatever was the issue, that would be great. The more recruiting the better. However, that is never where it ends. Inevitably, the recruiting "goals" aren't met, and then the standards are changed. Eventually they're ignored. There are kids appointed to the Air Force Academy every year who would barely qualify for their home state university. And then they suck the life and energy out of the institution as its staff and faculty bend over backwards to try to help them succeed. When they don't, they usually take a few of the actually qualified cadets out with them. The net result is a lower quality institution and graduates. BINGO... the law of unintended consequences with race based decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I am with you, @Rokke, @NCTexan Re high standards, we need to do for SEALS just like we have done in other areas. For example, our Presidency. Only the most qualified and vetted should and must occupy that office. Just look at the current denizen, occupant, for example, as to how well we followed this rigorous selection process in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTexan Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 The SBOLE (soft bigotry of low expectations) is a hallmark of the Left and the Liberal Elite... where racial stereotypes are not only perpetuated but worshiped as canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 @Valin Yes, same point: fooling with math by trying to increase the right hand area and you weaken the qualifications of the pool composition. But it's not fair! I mean it's not fair that no NFL will hire me to be a middle linebacker! I'm 63 weigh 140 soaking wet and have a bad knee, but I really really want to a middle linebacker, so shouldn't that count for something? What's not fair is that blacks only comprise 12% of the population but they account for 90% of the starters in the NFL. Boo hoo...waaaaaaaaaah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTexan Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 And then think about the NBA. Oh the humanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 @Valin Yes, same point: fooling with math by trying to increase the right hand area and you weaken the qualifications of the pool composition. But it's not fair! I mean it's not fair that no NFL will hire me to be a middle linebacker! I'm 63 weigh 140 soaking wet and have a bad knee, but I really really want to a middle linebacker, so shouldn't that count for something? What's not fair is that blacks only comprise 12% of the population but they account for 90% of the starters in the NFL. Boo hoo...waaaaaaaaaah You're right! It's reverse racism! Quick someone get me a lawyer...I might as well try and make a buck off this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 @Valin Yes, same point: fooling with math by trying to increase the right hand area and you weaken the qualifications of the pool composition. But it's not fair! I mean it's not fair that no NFL will hire me to be a middle linebacker! I'm 63 weigh 140 soaking wet and have a bad knee, but I really really want to a middle linebacker, so shouldn't that count for something? What's not fair is that blacks only comprise 12% of the population but they account for 90% of the starters in the NFL. Boo hoo...waaaaaaaaaah You're right! It's reverse racism! Quick someone get me a lawyer...I might as well try and make a buck off this. @Valin Yes, same point: fooling with math by trying to increase the right hand area and you weaken the qualifications of the pool composition. But it's not fair! I mean it's not fair that no NFL will hire me to be a middle linebacker! I'm 63 weigh 140 soaking wet and have a bad knee, but I really really want to a middle linebacker, so shouldn't that count for something? What's not fair is that blacks only comprise 12% of the population but they account for 90% of the starters in the NFL. Boo hoo...waaaaaaaaaah You're right! It's reverse racism! Quick someone get me a lawyer...I might as well try and make a buck off this. I tried that. Alas, he watched me miss 10 free throws in a row, shook his head and left the premises. I did get his bill though, so, not a total loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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