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Russia retaliates by banning: LINK

 

Caroline Atkinson, deputy assistant to President Obama
Dan Pfeiffer, assistant to Obama
Ben Rhodes, assistant to Obama
Harry Reed, not anyone in Congress, but they probably meant Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. (Let he who writes in perfect Cyrillic cast the first stone.)
John Boehner, Speaker of the House
Robert Menendez, senator from New Jersey
Mary Landrieu, senator from Louisiana
John McCain, senator from Arizona
Dan Coats, senator from Indiana

 

I think I would be comfortable if we banned this same list from the US....

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Russia retaliates by banning: LINK

 

Caroline Atkinson, deputy assistant to President Obama

Dan Pfeiffer, assistant to Obama

Ben Rhodes, assistant to Obama

Harry Reed, not anyone in Congress, but they probably meant Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. (Let he who writes in perfect Cyrillic cast the first stone.)

John Boehner, Speaker of the House

Robert Menendez, senator from New Jersey

Mary Landrieu, senator from Louisiana

John McCain, senator from Arizona

Dan Coats, senator from Indiana

 

I think I would be comfortable if we banned this same list from the US....

 

 

Are you disappointed to find your name not on the list? I know I was expecting to see mine. I think I'm just going have to try harder. A mans reach should exceed his grasp...etc etc etc.

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A Coup in Crimeaor in Russia?

By Scott McConnell March 19, 2014

Scott McConnell is a founding editor of The American Conservative....and will very soon be working for RT. The guy is trying to be very clever.

 

Here's what happened.

Yanukovych government was 1. a incredible corrupt government

2. In Putins pocket.

3. Yanukovych and his gang of thugs got thrown out after they caved into Putins bribe.

 

So

1. Putin knows there is a wuss with no interest of or knowledge of foreign affairs

2. He see's this as a golden opportunity to take another step in returning the Russian empire

3. He did it...international norms be damned...by means of threats and an incredible fixed election.

 

And no mention of the Eeeeeviiiillll Noe-Cons that the moron isolationists are always so worried about.

 

 

If you get the impression that I have no use for Patty 'the punk' Buchanan and the rest of his gang of clowns at The American Conservative....You win a cookie.

 

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Why the Nostalgia for an Old Communist Economy?

 

Mises Daily: Friday, March 21, 2014 by Predrag Rajsic

There seems to be a resurgence of nostalgia for the “good old days” among the citizens of countries that were once known under the common name of Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. This article is dedicated to all of us former Yugoslavs, especially those who think that the Yugoslav economy during Tito’s rule was built on a stable foundation. If we look at and analyze economic indicators, we have to admit that the idea of the robustness of the Yugoslav economy was an illusion and that the “well-being” that many former Yugoslavs are recalling with nostalgia was borrowed at the expense of future generations. These generations are now paying the bill for the collapse of the unsustainable economic system of socialist Yugoslavia, along with paying the bill for the destructive wars of the 1990s, and the interventionist economic policies of former Yugoslavia’s successor states.

 

The first sign that the robustness of the Yugoslav economy was an illusion appeared immediately after Tito’s death. The 1980s were marked by constant delays Scissors-32x32.pnghttp://mises.org/daily/6697/Why-the-Nostalgia-for-an-Old-Communist-Economy

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What Is The U.S. Trying To Achieve With Sanctions?

 

By Daniel LarisonMarch 21, 2014, 11:32 AM

 

Nikolas Gvosdev asks what U.S. policymakers want to achieve in their response to the annexation of Crimea:

If reversal is the goal, then the emphasis is on pressure and punitive measures; if the aim is a long-term settlement, then inducements are required. What should be recognized, however, is that these approaches cannot be pursued simultaneously.

 

Yet part of the hesitation in imposing stronger measures arises because another crucial question has not been definitively answered: If reversing Russia’s move in Crimea is determined to be the policy objective, what costs is the U.S. prepared to pay?

 

So far, the U.S. response has been trying to have things both ways: hawkish enough to fend off some domestic critics, but not so harsh that it immediately provokes a backlash. The second round of sanctions imposed by the administration was a stronger punishment than the sanctions imposed earlier this week, but Scissors-32x32.pnghttp://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/what-is-the-u-s-trying-to-achieve-with-sanctions/

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Russia This Week:...
March 21 2014

1415 GMT: Buzzfeed, one of the highest-read news sites in the US, and RT.com, the Kremlin’s propaganda arm, are having a traffic war over the story of the RT.com resignations. Rosie Gray of Buzzfeed has done the definitive expose of RT.com — which hides the “Russia Today” in its rebranded name the way KFC hides the fat content in fried chicken. It seems like RT.com is winning – except that Gray’s story ran on 13 May, and Simonyan’s vitriolic op-ed where she implied colleagues who didn’t agree with Putin were dishonest cowards was published 6 March — so it had more chance to gather clicks. Of course, Buzzfeed is a private media company that that can’t be expected to compete with a nuclear power where people are paid to click on pro-government articles.

 

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Also being debated is a wildly tendentious take-down of critical coverage of the RT.com resignations which was started by Jamie Kirchick, who was famous for his protest live on RT.com against the Kremlin’s homophobia . Truthdig boosters fail to see that many people view the source as fringe, a home for truthers and Snowdenistas. See also Dave Weigel’s interview with Liz Wahl, the RT.com reporter who dramatically quit over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

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Head Of Ukraine's State Energy Company Detained In Corruption Probe

March 21 2014

 

Ukrainian police have arrested the head of the state-run energy company Naftogaz, Yevhen Bakulin, in connection with a corruption investigation.

 

Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, in a statement on Facebook, said the police were conducting three separate investigations into suspected corruption in the natural-gas industry that may have cost the state some $4 billion.

 

Avakov said Bakulin was suspected of heading a "criminal group" whose members include other senior current and former Ukrainian government members.

 

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Russia’s Credit Outlook Cut as U.S., EU Widen Sanction Lists
Olga Tanas
Mar 21, 2014 4:08 AM CT

Russia’s credit rating outlook was cut to negative by Fitch Ratings, citing the potential impact on a slowing economy of widening U.S. and European Union sanctions imposed as it absorbs Ukraine’s Crimea region.

 

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European Union leaders added 12 names to their list of Russians and Ukrainians hit with asset freezes and travel bans, and U.S. President Barack Obama yesterday ordered financial sanctions against a wider swath of officials and billionaires seen as allies to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

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Even before the U.S. and the EU announced sanctions, the economy was showing signs of “crisis,” Deputy Economy Minister Sergei Belyakov said March 17.

“Growth slowed to 1.3 percent in 2013 and investment is contracting,” Fitch said. It has lowered its forecast for Russia’s economic expansion to less than 1 percent this year, while S&P cut its growth estimate to 1.2 percent in 2014.

 

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European Union signs landmark association agreement with Ukraine

Adrian Croft

BRUSSELS Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:26am EDT

 

(Reuters) - The European Union and Ukraine signed the core elements of a political association agreement on Friday, committing to the same deal former president Viktor Yanukovich rejected last November, a move which led to his overthrow.

 

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, EU leaders Herman Van Rompuy and Jose Manuel Barroso, and the leaders of the bloc's 28 nations signed the core chapters of the Association Agreement on the sidelines of an EU summit in Brussels.

 

The deal commits Ukraine and the EU to closer political and economic cooperation, although more substantial parts of the agreement concerning free trade will only be signed after Ukraine has held new presidential elections in May.

 

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I've got no use for those clowns at TAC. If they had their way we'd go back to the 1930's.

 

Sorry I don’t think you are looking at this story in the full light of day

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Russia’s Credit Outlook Cut as U.S., EU Widen Sanction Lists

Olga Tanas

Mar 21, 2014 4:08 AM CT

 

Russia’s credit rating outlook was cut to negative by Fitch Ratings, citing the potential impact on a slowing economy of widening U.S. and European Union sanctions imposed as it absorbs Ukraine’s Crimea region.

 

(Snip)

 

European Union leaders added 12 names to their list of Russians and Ukrainians hit with asset freezes and travel bans, and U.S. President Barack Obama yesterday ordered financial sanctions against a wider swath of officials and billionaires seen as allies to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

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Even before the U.S. and the EU announced sanctions, the economy was showing signs of “crisis,” Deputy Economy Minister Sergei Belyakov said March 17.

“Growth slowed to 1.3 percent in 2013 and investment is contracting,” Fitch said. It has lowered its forecast for Russia’s economic expansion to less than 1 percent this year, while S&P cut its growth estimate to 1.2 percent in 2014.

 

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Euromaidan PR@EuromaidanPR 32m

Gennadiy Tymchenko,6th #Russia richest man sold his business in the West due 2 sanctions http://tsn.ua/svit/sankciyi-ssha-zmusili-odnogo-z-oligarhiv-putina-prodati-sviy-biznes-financial-times-341186.html …

 

 

Sanctioned Timchenko sells Gunvor stake

Jack Farchy in Moscow3/20/14

 

Gennady Timchenko, who was sanctioned by the US Treasury on Thursday, has sold his shares in oil trader Gunvor in the clearest sign of the likely impact of the latest round of sanctions on Russian companies.

Mr Timchenko, Russia’s sixth richest man according to Forbes, sold his stake to business partner Torbjorn Tornqvist “to ensure with certainty the continued and uninterrupted operations” of the company, Gunvor said.

 

Gunvor is the world’s fourth-largest oil trader, handling 2.1m barrels a day of oil and products – equivalent to the consumption of France. It also has investments in assets from oil refineries in Belgium and Germany to coal mines in Montana and South Africa.

 

Traders and lawyers had suggested that counterparties would reconsider whether they could trade with the group after Mr Timchenko was sanctioned on Thursday by the US. Yields on Gunvor bonds leapt 3.4 percentage points to 10.91 per cent.

 

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Ukraine Liveblog Day 32

 

1928 GMT: A sign that Russia will retaliate against Tatar leaders who are not cooperative? The official Twitter account for the Crimean Tatar Parliment Representation to the EU reports:

 

EU Crimean Tatar @CrimeaEU Follow

Mustafa Cemilev, leader of the Crimean Tatars & Ukrainian MP declared "non grata" in #Crimea by Russian authorities.

 

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EU Crimean Tatar @CrimeaEU Follow

Crimean leader & Ukrainian MP Mustafa Cemilev's entry to #Crimea is restricted by the Russian authorities.

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1924 GMT: Ukraine’s Channel 5 is reporting that the only Ukrainina submarine, the Zaporozhye, was captured by Russian soldiers who threw grenades into the water to threaten the crew.

TSN.UA also reports that several dozen Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered to Russian troops in Kerch, the eastern-most port on Crimea.

Global Post News has more on yesterday’s seizing of one of Ukraine’s largest ships:

 

 

As the flags go down one by one on Ukraine’s fleet in Crimea, Russian forces are laying siege to the few ships left in a strongly pro-Russian community that is hostile to the new government in Kiev.

The Ternopil and Slavutich, Ukraine’s biggest ships in Sevastopol, once stood side by side on the north side of the bay.

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Russian Banks Feeling Pain Of U.S. Sanctions

3/21/2014

5:14PM

 

Economic sanctions are having an immediate impact on some Russian banks, with Visa and Mastercard no longer processing transactions by cardholders, a number of Russian banks said.

 

On Friday, shares of VTB Bank fell 2.44% on the Micex in Moscow, with Sberbank the nations biggest lender, down 0.45% on the day, and its subsidiary Sberbank Rossii down 1.3%. Neither of those banks were part of the ban, but investors took it out on the major publicly traded names today, possibly setting the stage for steeper declines on Monday.

 

The news signaled the first impact on ordinary Russian citizens by a series of Western sanctions against Russia over the ongoing situation in Ukraine.

 

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March 22, 2014

The Real Problem in Crimea

By Bruce Walker

Why is the independence plebiscite in Crimea followed fast by union with Russia bad? We have to be careful in answering that question.

 

“Balkanization,” or the division of states into different smaller nations, more often than not is good. Indeed, the independence of Ukraine itself was the result of the “Balkanization” of the Russian Marxist Empire, when a dozen new nations emerged out of the colonial possessions of the Russian Marxist Empire.

 

Recent history in Eastern Europe has shown that this is sometimes indispensable to peace and liberty. The Slovakian people had been joined to the Bohemian and Moravian people after the First World War, forming a new nation, Czechoslovakia. Nobody ever asked the Slovaks if they desired to be joined as the junior partner of a hybrid nation, and the tension let Hitler further his ambitions. Only after the end of the Cold War, when the Czechs allowed the Slovaks to execute the “Velvet Divorce,” Scissors-32x32.pnghttp://americanthinker.com/2014/03/the_real_problem_in_crimea.html

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Mar 22, 2014

In the aftermath of the referendum in which 97% percent of the Crimean population supposedly voted to join the Russian referendum, VICE News' Simon Ostrovsky returns to the Ukrainian Naval headquarters in Sevastopol, after self defense forces stormed the premises and took over the base
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