Maher tells Rep. Ellison the Quran is a ‘hate-filled holy book’ that inspires terrorism

[Geee]

Daily Caller:

On Friday, Minnesota Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison appeared on “Real Time with Bill Maher.” Maher told Ellison, who is a Muslim, that the Quran was a “hate-filled holy book” that inspired terrorism.

Ellison gave an emotional, tear-filled testimony Thursday to a House committee hearing on the radicalization of American Muslims. The hearing, chaired by New York Republican Rep. Peter King, has been labeled by opponents as a witch hunt targeting Muslims.

Maher started his conversation on religion with Ellison by discussing the congressman’s conversion from Catholicism to Islam. “You converted as a young man. I didn’t even know you went to prison,” Maher jokingly said.

Ellison explained that when he attended college he was “interested in social justice, social change” and became attracted to the religion.

Maher then proceeded to discuss the threat posed by the radicalization of American Muslims.

“I do agree that there are other groups that pose a terroristic threat to this country,” Maher said, “I would say that the threat from radicalized Muslims is a unique and greater threat. It is the greatest threat.”

[pollyannaish]

“They are trying to get nuclear weapons,” Maher continued. “I don’t think Tim McVeigh would ever have tried to get a nuclear weapon because I think right-wing nuts, they think they love this country and they are not trying to destroy this country, they want to get it away from the people they see as hijacking it. That’s different than Muslim extremists who want to destroy it.”

 

 

I'm not sure what to do. Are pigs flying? Has hell frozen over?

 

I wholeheartedly agree with Bill Maher on this point. The only change I would make to it is to add left-wing nuts like Bill Ayers to the mix who are indistinguishable from the McVeighs in their actions.

[Saltbag]

Maher is guilty until proven innocent. If he actually flopped, it would be for his career and not his beliefs. He's a cheap hooker.

[pollyannaish]

Maher is guilty until proven innocent. If he actually flopped, it would be for his career and not his beliefs. He's a cheap hooker.

 

 

Cheap hookers may be the reason he flopped on this.

 

I don't believe for a second he is a conservative. I think that many pure liberals, especially hedonistic ones, are coming to understand the threat that Islam poses to their freedom to do as they please. Think Chris Hitchens. So I believe his sentiments on this are genuine.

 

I also believe that the dangers of radical Islam is an issue that Christians and Secularists can agree on. It threatens the freedoms we both enjoy.

[WestVirginiaRebel]

Maher tends to be an atheist in general, but this may be a broken clock moment for him.

[righteousmomma]

Maher started his conversation on religion with Ellison by discussing the congressman’s conversion from Catholicism to Islam. “You converted as a young man. I didn’t even know you went to prison,” Maher jokingly said.

 

 

I weep for God. I am ashamed of people like Ellison.

 

Here we are beginning Lent --the time of the year we should be focusing on God's Love to all mankind. What are people like Ellison and 1000s of other Westerners of Judeo/Christian heritage doing but turning their back on God and rejecting Him. Spitting in His Face.

"Woe unto them" as a prophet of God from days of yore might say.

Islam considers Jesus a prophet -if so, then He- according to the Koran and the Bible - speaks forth Allah or God's Truth - thus they are without excuse.

 

And this social justice clap trap is a red liberal herring, a liberation theolgy, a humanistic false religion --just didn't know Muslims fall for it too.

[SrWoodchuck]

I see it as, "All, according to His plan."

 

There is a certain "off-putting" to loud & vigorous proselytizing. It emanates from Bill Maher & his atheism, as it sometimes does from street preacher's shouting scripture in your ear from a foot away. It makes you want to run the other way, and ponder any Divinity from quiet contemplation. I used to watch Maher, and now I'd watch anything other. He's a thin Michael Moore, with a few snide yuks. Neither one has a thing in common with the average American.

 

I fully agree with WVR's "broken clock" reference. Even a fool can recognize a threat to himself.

 

BTW: Ellison is an extremely aggravating Muslim. His Boehner impression was almost LOL.

[pollyannaish]

The stopped clock analogy is, indeed, perfect.

 

I just believe that acknowledging when we agree with our political opponents is essential to our maintaining country's character. On this, I agree with Maher. Usually, not at all.

[pollyannaish]

I see it as, "All, according to His plan."

 

There is a certain "off-putting" to loud & vigorous proselytizing. It emanates from Bill Maher & his atheism, as it sometimes does from street preacher's shouting scripture in your ear from a foot away. It makes you want to run the other way, and ponder any Divinity from quiet contemplation. I used to watch Maher, and now I'd watch anything other. He's a thin Michael Moore, with a few snide yuks. Neither one has a thing in common with the average American.

 

I fully agree with WVR's "broken clock" reference. Even a fool can recognize a threat to himself.

 

BTW: Ellison is an extremely aggravating Muslim. His Boehner impression was almost LOL.

 

 

From a spiritual perspective, I think that we follow the example of Jesus, who was more interested in people than politics. I would hate to ever think my politics stood in the way of another person accepting Jesus because they were liberal and couldn't hear the message because of my conservatism.

 

That doesn't mean politics are bad, just that when it comes to connecting with God we focus on a heart at a time, not political enforcement or ending up with it as a hinderance. There are many, many good Christian liberals, as strange as it might seem to me sometimes.

 

My goal, is to keep people as free as possible to make the choice for Him. I sin plenty enough to be a stumbling block...without having my politics adding an extra hinderance.

[SrWoodchuck]

Maher is obnoxiously atheist.......to the point of making a stupid movie to ridicule religion & "prove" his point. Almost anything is more important to me, than this "blind squirrel finally finding an acorn." A duck that stops quacking for a brief moment is still a duck. Can I possibly find any more of these worthless analogies?

 

It's natural to admire & want to emulate a good example. Christ said that we should not hate our enemies, but love them.....however the opposite of love is not hate.....it's indifference. Jesus always provided the good example, but even He realized that some people will never respond & move towards the "light." If good examples & logic do not win him over......a bloody nose & John 3:16 aren't likely to, either.

 

My conservative beliefs include Christian charity, but not enforced confiscation & redistribution of wealth. When you take my wallet at gunpoint & give me back what you've decided I need.....I'll try to stop you or at the very least ignore the hell out of you.

 

It's by his free will that Maher found the lowest point....Keith Ellison, too.

 

 

"I don't want Maher to go away mad.....I just want him to go away!" [Paraphrasing "Muskie Muskrat"]

[NCTexan]

The stopped clock analogy is, indeed, perfect.

 

I just believe that acknowledging when we agree with our political opponents is essential to our maintaining country's character. On this, I agree with Maher. Usually, not at all.

Pollyannaish!

 

I "disagree" with your comment (and you and I are political allies ).

 

To me, it's important to agree with the fact no matter who says it. I don't believe that it's necessary to agree or acknowledge someone who's wrong 90% of the time.

 

While the broken clock is right a couple times a day... it doesn't make it any less broken.

[righteousmomma]

I see it as, "All, according to His plan."

 

So do I, Sr. Woodchuck. So should all Christian -if they really believe what they say they believe.

 

Personally I could not care less if Maher is an atheist or not.

By definition it means "without God".

Unless God opens his heart Maher will never change.

He has no hunger for God.

 

However people like Ellison are really the deluded, deceived tragic ones.

 

Know I am on a different wave, tangent or whatever with the rest of you here on this particular thread

Nothing to do with politics but has everything to do with the essence of "Who Speaks for God" (as explained by Chuck Colson

AND NOT by liberal Jim Wallis who has a book by the same name.}

 

Think what got me going was Maher's quip about Ellison not having been in prison. The prisons are churning out Black Muslims at an alarming rate.

 

Then I thought of this very kind educated young black man who has been a favorite server of ours at one of our favorite chain restaurants. He came down from Virginia a few years ago with his mother and told us how his mother is a Christian and loved Bible Studies etc etc and how she needed to find a church etc.

Next thing we know he has changed his name to "Mo" and is sporting a little goatee beard. Saw him Thursday night and he is still Mo and a different person in regards to interacting with us. Just professional and totally impersonal.

 

So anyway just wanted to explain that I was not completely coming out of la-la land.

[Casino67]

"Think what got me going was Maher's quip about Ellison not having been in prison. The prisons are churning out Black Muslims at an alarming rate."

 

Radicalization in the prisons is going to be the subject of the next Peter King hearing. Should be very interesting.

[Pepper]

Casino

 

Radicalization in the prisons

 

 

The enemy within.

[Casino67]

Casino

 

Radicalization in the prisons

 

 

The enemy within.

 

The hearings will be interesting. Fortunately, IMO, once released from prison, they just slip back into there old ways--drinking, drugging, getting rearrested.

[SrWoodchuck]

Casino

 

Radicalization in the prisons

 

 

The enemy within.

 

The hearings will be interesting. Fortunately, IMO, once released from prison, they just slip back into there old ways--drinking, drugging, getting rearrested.

 

Casino67!

 

Luqman Ameen Abdullah was a perfect example of prison conversion.......he died of lead poisoning last year during an FBI raid.....when he pulled a gun & shot their K-9.

[Casino67]

Casino

 

Radicalization in the prisons

 

 

The enemy within.

 

The hearings will be interesting. Fortunately, IMO, once released from prison, they just slip back into there old ways--drinking, drugging, getting rearrested.

 

Casino67!

 

Luqman Ameen Abdullah was a perfect example of prison conversion.......he died of lead poisoning last year during an FBI raid.....when he pulled a gun & shot their K-9.

 

I wasn't familiar with Luqman. Found this article:

 

 

"Luqman Ameen Abdullah, Leader Of Radical Islam Group, Killed In Raid"

ED WHITE | 10/28/09 09:46 PM |

 

Source

 

Saved us a lot of money by not surviving his lead poisoning.

[pollyannaish]

The stopped clock analogy is, indeed, perfect.

 

I just believe that acknowledging when we agree with our political opponents is essential to our maintaining country's character. On this, I agree with Maher. Usually, not at all.

Pollyannaish!

 

I "disagree" with your comment (and you and I are political allies ).

 

To me, it's important to agree with the fact no matter who says it. I don't believe that it's necessary to agree or acknowledge someone who's wrong 90% of the time.

 

While the broken clock is right a couple times a day... it doesn't make it any less broken.

 

Hmmm. well, I think you and I may be saying the same thing...just differently.

 

What I was trying to convey is that we agree with principles...no matter who says it. We must stand by principle, rather than against opponents.

 

I agree with the well known axiom "A house divided against itself can not stand." Radicalized portions of BOTH parties have so demonized the other side, they can no longer communicate. This is unhealthy, unproductive and self defeating. We must find principles on which we can agree and acknowledge them. If we can not, we deem fellow Americans as enemies. Isn't that exactly what annoys us about the other side in relationship to how we see us? Is that really what we want to emulate?

[SrWoodchuck]

The stopped clock analogy is, indeed, perfect.

 

I just believe that acknowledging when we agree with our political opponents is essential to our maintaining country's character. On this, I agree with Maher. Usually, not at all.

Pollyannaish!

 

I "disagree" with your comment (and you and I are political allies ).

 

To me, it's important to agree with the fact no matter who says it. I don't believe that it's necessary to agree or acknowledge someone who's wrong 90% of the time.

 

While the broken clock is right a couple times a day... it doesn't make it any less broken.

 

Hmmm. well, I think you and I may be saying the same thing...just differently.

 

What I was trying to convey is that we agree with principles...no matter who says it. We must stand by principle, rather than against opponents.

 

I agree with the well known axiom "A house divided against itself can not stand." Radicalized portions of BOTH parties have so demonized the other side, they can no longer communicate. This is unhealthy, unproductive and self defeating. We must find principles on which we can agree and acknowledge them. If we can not, we deem fellow Americans as enemies. Isn't that exactly what annoys us about the other side in relationship to how we see us? Is that really what we want to emulate?

Pollyannaish!

 

You mean we shouldn't want them crazy liberal suckers huddled in a corner, whimpering & begging forgiveness?

 

DISAPPOINTED!

[pollyannaish]

 

Pollyannaish!

 

You mean we shouldn't want them crazy liberal suckers huddled in a corner, whimpering & begging forgiveness?

 

DISAPPOINTED!

 

Well. I would rather convert them. Converts always bring the best energy to a movement.

 

 

But hey, that's me.

 

 

Edited to add: By the way, I have had pretty good success with this methodology in my area, especially among young people. It takes a LOT of patience and persistence though. And screaming in one's pillow out of earshot.