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BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) -- The Berkeley city council, known for its forays into international affairs, has narrowly rejected a measure that would have welcomed freed Guantanamo Bay detainees to resettle in this California college town.

The resolution would have asked Congress to allow Guantanamo prisoners who have been cleared of wrongdoing to resettle in the U.S. - and invited "one or two" of them to live in Berkeley.

The measure lost in a 4-1 vote, with four abstentions, late Tuesday.

At least two other U.S. cities - Amherst and Leverett in Massachusetts - have approved similar resolutions aimed at clearing the way for Guantanamo detainees to come the U.S. after their release from the American detention facility in Cuba.

"These men have suffered immensely," said Cynthia Papermaster, who heads Berkeley No More Guantanamos. "It's the right thing for all U.S. citizens to say, 'We're sorry for what happened to you. If you want to come here, we have a place for you.'"

Papermaster, a Berkeley resident who asked the council's Peace and Justice Commission to consider the measure, said former detainees would be sponsored by volunteers and nonprofit groups, and no city money would be used to support them.

City Manager Phil Kamlarz recommended that the council take no action, saying "federal law explicitly prohibits the transfer of Guantanamo detainees to the United States."

Councilman Gordon Wozniak, who voted against the resolution, said the resolution is an empty gesture that takes attention away from more pressing issues facing the city.

"I think it distracts the council from the local business that we actually have control over," Wozniak said.

Danny Gonzales, of the group Move America Forward, told the council he opposed bringing Guantanamo detainees to Berkeley.

"Just because they haven't been charged and convicted of a crime doesn't mean they're innocent," he said. "It's dangerous. Don't bring them here."
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Bezerkeley doesn't want them? I blame Bush!
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"These men have suffered immensely," said Cynthia Papermaster, who heads Berkeley No More Guantanamos. "It's the right thing for all U.S. citizens to say, 'We're sorry for what happened to you. If you want to come here, we have a place for you.'"

 

Wow. They would slit her throat before she could say, I'm an idiot.

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Narrowly rejected in a 4 to 1 vote?

 

With four abstentions. No telling what the vote would have been had those four had not chickened out.

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shoutWestVirginiaRebel

 

Using Pharaoh Obama's rule of thumb, the city council listened to its citizens.

 

 

 

Mash Here

 

 

The citizens, were two to one against this.

Yes 64

No 112

 

Some great comments

 

I say no. Please don't waste time on these meaningless issues. The Council's job is to ensure the city runs smoothly. Please focus on solving real problems that Berkeley citizens encounter, such as insufficient or degraded city services, inefficient bureaucracy with no incentive to improve, and insufficient tax revenues because of business-unfriendly municipal rules and regulations.

 

I say no. Add my voice to the chorus of fellow citizens who understand the difference between local and national policy issues. If the Peace and Justice Commission cannot limit their pronouncements to ideas that actually make Berkeley a better, safer place for us and our children, disband them. Stop wasting our money and your time debating issues over which we have no control.

 

On the Yes side

 

I say yes I would be so proud to live in a city that stands up for justice! These people do not pose a threat or danger and we would be stating that they have a right to live wherever they please.

 

:blink:

 

 

I say yes. I would like to offer a bed in my home for one of the refugees of terrorism coming from Guantanamo.

:lmfao:

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I say yes. I would like to offer a bed :unsure: in my home for one of the refugees of terrorism coming from Guantanamo.

 

And I say YES as well...

 

Those terrorist B@$T@RD$ deserve it!

 

They'll be beggin' for Uncle Rushbaugh to take them back to Club Gitmo before these gals get through with them! :lmfao:

 

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I say yes. I would like to offer a bed in my home for one of the refugees of terrorism coming from Guantanamo.

 

 

Wow. I would almost pay for an airline ticket to let this wingnut spend a week with their savage prior to adoption if they would publicly post how big of an idiot they were afterward. Well, if they lived through the week with their new best friend.

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