Tea Partiers Looking to Build Conservative Coalition on Capitol Hill

[Geee]

Fox News:

The Tea Party movement has earned a sizeable voice in Congress after two tumultuous years in the making, and it's moving quickly to carve out a foothold in Washington before the next session begins in January.

Minnesota Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Tea Party darling who moved to create a House caucus for the movement over the summer, is planning to run for a top-ranking leadership position, according to a colleague. Rand Paul, the winner of the Kentucky Senate contest, said Wednesday that he wants to form a bicameral Tea Party caucus.

The developments signal that the Tea Party's congressional stewards are looking to expand the movement's reach as soon as possible, though it's unclear whether the contingent will complement or combat the Republican Party as a whole.

While some party leaders on both sides of the aisle said they would welcome and work with the new class of lawmakers, Tea Party-aligned Sen. Jim DeMint on Wednesday suggested the incoming members wage a battle against the party infrastructure. But the Tea Party candidates as well as the veteran GOP legislators were all talking about the same thing in the wake of their historic gains in the midterm elections -- cutting spending, cutting government and spurring economic growth.

"Americans don't understand why we have to balance our own family budget and Congress doesn't. It just doesn't make any sense to us," Paul told Fox News. "We have to do something to get our fiscal house in order."

[Stella]

What DeMint and his jolly group need to understand is that the majority of people don't want this. They consider this group extreme. A lot of the GOP in the Coast states and Illinois are happy with the regular GOP. Bachmann is only the representative of Minnesota. If they are not careful, they will cause a huge rift in the GOP and make sure that Independents flee. I know a lot of Conservatives don't care about this but there are not enough of True Conservatives to win an election.

 

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people. They are more into dictating their philosophy and it's not going to work. Otherwise, Colorado, Deleware, Nevada and even Alaska would be in the R column.

[NCTexan]

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people.

 

Interesting.... Where do you see all of the 'smart thinking' going on then... the RNC?

[Stella]

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people.

 

Interesting.... Where do you see all of the 'smart thinking' going on then... the RNC?

 

Rove and Krauthammer were right on about the midterm election. They all have to work together but Palin has made it very clear that the "elite" GOP, as she calls them, will not be called into the discussion. Rove and Krauthammer are Conservatives but they are not offering Palin the 40 million she got from the Express this year.

[Guest areafiftyone]

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people.

 

Interesting.... Where do you see all of the 'smart thinking' going on then... the RNC?

 

Rove and Krauthammer were right on about the midterm election. They all have to work together but Palin has made it very clear that the "elite" GOP, as she calls them, will not be called into the discussion. Rove and Krauthammer are Conservatives but they are not offering Palin the 40 million she got from the Express this year.

 

The Republicans have 2YEARS to make progress. The Rasmussen poll that just came out today says Most Voters Think House GOP Likely To Disappoint By 2012

 

They have to prove them wrong. If there is any infighting between the Tea Party Express candidates and the GOP - the American public will kick them out in 2012 and let Obama win again. There has to be a coming together of the minds. If they don't - I don't want to hear the whining in 2012 of how we lost like in 2008 and they will have no one to blame but themselves. The American public does not see any difference between Tea Party Express candidates and the "GOP Elite" so called by the Tea Party Express. To them they are all Republicans (one party). There is no third party there are only Republicans and Democrats. What happens by 2012 is up to all of them.

[righteousmomma]

I don't want to hear the whining in 2012 of how we lost like in 2008 and they will have no one to blame but themselves. The American public does not see any difference between Tea Party Express candidates and the "GOP Elite" so called by the Tea Party Express. To them they are all Republicans (one party). There is no third party there are only Republicans and Democrats. What happens by 2012 is up to all of them.

 

You guys sure live in a different part of the Country than we do and have a different perspective and view.

 

As for "whining" I am one of those who was absolutely sick in 2008 --not just whining but mad as the proverbial wet hen at one trick voters who sat home AND at the RNC and the leaders of the GOP and many of our Congressmen and Senators (NOT ALL). Why? Because like we told the RNC when they constantly sent us money raising letters or called us (as previous generous donors) we were sick of the RINOS/inside the beltway/elites or whatever title you choose to call them NOT standing up to the constant drip -drip drip of W being called a "complete failure", "a dismal failure", a liar, a lover of only the rich yada yada, yada. We told them until they stopped being so accommodating and reaching across the aisle and giving the liberal Democrats their way and compromising and start paying attention to and touting some of the so called conservative candidates that we were closing the bank. We would still vote R but...

I still feel the same.

 

I am proud that the Republican House stood firm and fast against the Dems but I can pretty well take that stance to the bank that they would not have stood as one man without the Grass Roots revolt that was peacefully but determinedly underway. There are some really good people in the Senate and the House and they deserve to be reelected.

 

However even Peggy Noonan who is about as Republican elite as they come credits the Tea Party movement with saving the Republican Party.

Even Karl Rove --whom I like tremendously --has said he should have spoken out and defended more. Of course he was so hated and vilified by the Dems that it would have done no good.

 

There is a reason why we have Parties. There is supposed to be a difference. The Republicans were fast on their way to becoming a non entity.

 

As for what happens in 2012-

we do agree that the Party needs to have a message and an agreed to leadership and it is up to all Republicans and the so called Country Club elites inside the beltway need to listen. Sorry if we who are pro life and cling to our guns and religion embarrass some of them but we are not the ones who need to change.

 

These are not normal times and politics as usual. Too much is at stake that is vital to our future.

------------------------

Btw, NC has a GOP controlled General Assembly now for the first time in over 100 years.

Eureka!!

Every single Republican who ran on our side ran as a conservative standing up for and with the Tea Party Movement. They all won except for a couple of really good people in gerrymandered National districts who lost to the incumbent Dem.

[SrWoodchuck]

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people.

 

Interesting.... Where do you see all of the 'smart thinking' going on then... the RNC?

 

Rove and Krauthammer were right on about the midterm election. They all have to work together but Palin has made it very clear that the "elite" GOP, as she calls them, will not be called into the discussion. Rove and Krauthammer are Conservatives but they are not offering Palin the 40 million she got from the Express this year.

 

The Republicans have 2YEARS to make progress. The Rasmussen poll that just came out today says Most Voters Think House GOP Likely To Disappoint By 2012

 

They have to prove them wrong. If there is any infighting between the Tea Party Express candidates and the GOP - the American public will kick them out in 2012 and let Obama win again. There has to be a coming together of the minds. If they don't - I don't want to hear the whining in 2012 of how we lost like in 2008 and they will have no one to blame but themselves. The American public does not see any difference between Tea Party Express candidates and the "GOP Elite" so called by the Tea Party Express. To them they are all Republicans (one party). There is no third party there are only Republicans and Democrats. What happens by 2012 is up to all of them.

Area51!

 

I agree with much of what you say. The onus is on us........we have to move in a positive way, but stay true to our principles. The Tea Party re-invigorated the Republicans and their conservative base. To that end I think we need to see a clear move to defund/repeal the health care bill & any more stimulus.....while offering good options from a conservative perspective; such as less taxation & regulation, cutting the size of government, stopping the Fed from buying back our debt, by just printing more money & reducing the power of the dollar, stopping the earmarked funds to unions & special interests, returning some of the government to state & local authorities [closer, and more responsive to the people].....so many different areas.

 

I firmly believe the Tea Party can & should wield power, as a balance against & to blunt the socialist agenda that has had free reign. Yes I said socialist, because a huge number of Democrats [even Obama as a state senator] are actually registered as socialists.....which is anathema to a Republic, and what the US has stood for over the years. Their power comes from a deep base of America that is, and has always been center right. It is that base that spoke on November 2nd, except for pockets of urban liberal strength, such as my own state of Californicatorado.

[NCTexan]

Interesting perspective on the subject from James Taranto of the WSJ

 

It's hard to dispute the premise that Republicans would have been more likely to win the Senate races in Colorado, Delaware and Nevada had the establishment candidates prevailed in the primaries. But Graham, Lott and Frum overreach in seeing vindication for the party establishment in those losses.

 

For one thing, had the establishment had its way, the Republican caucus in the next Senate would include Arlen Specter and Charlie Crist--assuming those men would have beaten their Democratic opponents--instead of Pat Toomey and Marco Rubio.

 

Toomey and Rubio are both solid conservatives. What sets them apart from Angle, Buck and O'Donnell is not ideology but experience: Toomey served six years in the U.S. House, and Rubio was speaker of the Florida House. None of the Tea Party losers have held federal office. Angle served in the state Assembly, and Buck is district attorney, a county office. O'Donnell has never held public office at all.

 

WSJ

[Stella]

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people.

 

Interesting.... Where do you see all of the 'smart thinking' going on then... the RNC?

 

Rove and Krauthammer were right on about the midterm election. They all have to work together but Palin has made it very clear that the "elite" GOP, as she calls them, will not be called into the discussion. Rove and Krauthammer are Conservatives but they are not offering Palin the 40 million she got from the Express this year.

 

The Republicans have 2YEARS to make progress. The Rasmussen poll that just came out today says Most Voters Think House GOP Likely To Disappoint By 2012

 

They have to prove them wrong. If there is any infighting between the Tea Party Express candidates and the GOP - the American public will kick them out in 2012 and let Obama win again. There has to be a coming together of the minds. If they don't - I don't want to hear the whining in 2012 of how we lost like in 2008 and they will have no one to blame but themselves. The American public does not see any difference between Tea Party Express candidates and the "GOP Elite" so called by the Tea Party Express. To them they are all Republicans (one party). There is no third party there are only Republicans and Democrats. What happens by 2012 is up to all of them.

Area51!

 

I agree with much of what you say. The onus is on us........we have to move in a positive way, but stay true to our principles. The Tea Party re-invigorated the Republicans and their conservative base. To that end I think we need to see a clear move to defund/repeal the health care bill & any more stimulus.....while offering good options from a conservative perspective; such as less taxation & regulation, cutting the size of government, stopping the Fed from buying back our debt, by just printing more money & reducing the power of the dollar, stopping the earmarked funds to unions & special interests, returning some of the government to state & local authorities [closer, and more responsive to the people].....so many different areas.

 

I firmly believe the Tea Party can & should wield power, as a balance against & to blunt the socialist agenda that has had free reign. Yes I said socialist, because a huge number of Democrats [even Obama as a state senator] are actually registered as socialists.....which is anathema to a Republic, and what the US has stood for over the years. Their power comes from a deep base of America that is, and has always been center right. It is that base that spoke on November 2nd, except for pockets of urban liberal strength, such as my own state of Californicatorado.

SrWoodchuck The Tea Party Movement is a wonderful thing. The Tea Party Express is not. The TPM put the WH on notice about what ordinary citizens thought of their power grabs and out of control spending. The Express let it be known that they will dictate what bills should be passed and who should be able to represent each state. The Express was out of control arrogance. Don't forget that the TPM months ago disassociated themselves from the Express. Nobody elected the self proclaimed leaders of the PAC. They will tear apart the GOP because they said they wanted to do this to install their social conservative agenda.

 

Those of us who would like to take the WH back from the Dems are looking with alarm at the fighting going on within the GOP. The Express does not represent most GOP voters and certainly not most Independents. The way they are going about making their demands is outrageous.

 

We will lose all control over the next SCOTUS appointments if this arguing continues. The general public is sick of all of this.

[NCTexan]

We will lose all control over the next SCOTUS appointments if this arguing continues.

Yea WoodChuck...

 

Why can't "THEY" be simpatico like all of us on TRR?

[Guest areafiftyone]

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people.

 

Interesting.... Where do you see all of the 'smart thinking' going on then... the RNC?

 

Rove and Krauthammer were right on about the midterm election. They all have to work together but Palin has made it very clear that the "elite" GOP, as she calls them, will not be called into the discussion. Rove and Krauthammer are Conservatives but they are not offering Palin the 40 million she got from the Express this year.

 

The Republicans have 2YEARS to make progress. The Rasmussen poll that just came out today says Most Voters Think House GOP Likely To Disappoint By 2012

 

They have to prove them wrong. If there is any infighting between the Tea Party Express candidates and the GOP - the American public will kick them out in 2012 and let Obama win again. There has to be a coming together of the minds. If they don't - I don't want to hear the whining in 2012 of how we lost like in 2008 and they will have no one to blame but themselves. The American public does not see any difference between Tea Party Express candidates and the "GOP Elite" so called by the Tea Party Express. To them they are all Republicans (one party). There is no third party there are only Republicans and Democrats. What happens by 2012 is up to all of them.

Area51!

 

I agree with much of what you say. The onus is on us........we have to move in a positive way, but stay true to our principles. The Tea Party re-invigorated the Republicans and their conservative base. To that end I think we need to see a clear move to defund/repeal the health care bill & any more stimulus.....while offering good options from a conservative perspective; such as less taxation & regulation, cutting the size of government, stopping the Fed from buying back our debt, by just printing more money & reducing the power of the dollar, stopping the earmarked funds to unions & special interests, returning some of the government to state & local authorities [closer, and more responsive to the people].....so many different areas.

 

I firmly believe the Tea Party can & should wield power, as a balance against & to blunt the socialist agenda that has had free reign. Yes I said socialist, because a huge number of Democrats [even Obama as a state senator] are actually registered as socialists.....which is anathema to a Republic, and what the US has stood for over the years. Their power comes from a deep base of America that is, and has always been center right. It is that base that spoke on November 2nd, except for pockets of urban liberal strength, such as my own state of Californicatorado.

 

All I'm saying is if the Tea Party Express causes any gridlock we will pay BIG TIME at the polls in 2012. They need to get things done. Gridlock will not help the American people and will make them angry. They want something done and quickly. Stubbornness and unwillingness to compromise will hold this country back just like it held the country back when the Democrats were in complete control, wielding power and were unwilling to compromise with the Republicans. Of course underneath they are all politicians who will say anything and everything to get into office and we all fall for it every time, but that's part of the game. But we have to prove we are better than the Democrats. We can't be cocky because in reality we only have the House and not the Senate. If we have gridlock we have nothing to show the American people and we are as bad as the Democrats. The American people are unforgiving right now and will not understand gridlock - all they will know is "nothing is getting done". We need to hold on to power. And to do that we need to get this economy on track. These two years are going to prove if the Tea Party Express is all talk and no action. I'm willing to give them a try - but they better not screw it up. I don't like that poll from Rasmussen - it means that 59% of the American people don't trust the Republicans either.

[Evad]

" I don't like that poll from Rasmussen - it means that 59% of the American people don't trust the Republicans either."

I don't "trust" Republicans either.

I've been "Lucy and the footballed" too many times.

 

But I have to admit, I am not getting the distinction about this Tea Party Express thing.

I thought that was a show that Hannity put on.

 

The Tea Party Movement has influenced the election of certain tea party candidates with tea party principles and directives. It has resulted in a tsunami. Those elected officials are there to stop our runaway govenment and turn things into a positive direction, not make kissy kissy with the "enemy" (as Obama puts it)

 

What's wrong with that?

[SrWoodchuck]

Stella!

 

I agree with you on most of what you said, but think that part of what was done, was in direct opposition to all things Dem & Obama; out of a very rational fear of the scope & speed that "hopey-change" was happening.

 

In any street fight; first blows are often erratic & ineffective......to gain distance & halt harm.

 

We need to focus & articulate to any that represent us, that future strikes need to be targeted and with unified power......no more flailing.

 

Funding is also a problem, since Dems seem to find all they need, from world/state powers or meglo-maniacal billionaires. Should we refuse money from the Koch brothers [supposedly bankrolling the Express] to further our attempt to return to a Republic? I guess it comes down to what they want in return.

 

I know I don't want to be just another one-world trans-national progressive. I think I'd trade for being a happy consuming capitalist, under the laws of the United States Constitution; and not a feudal serf, under some abrogated "living document" of one world justice. Socialists are angling for a liberal political Koran that can endlessly be reinterpreted as to "what the definition of is, is..." and right now, I'm glad someone is slapping them down. I won't stand against people who are on the side of the free, and I'll support anyone that keeps me & mine free.....Republican, Tea party, Independent.....even conservative Democrat, if there is such an animal.

[Stella]

" I don't like that poll from Rasmussen - it means that 59% of the American people don't trust the Republicans either."

I don't "trust" Republicans either.

I've been "Lucy and the footballed" too many times.

 

But I have to admit, I am not getting the distinction about this Tea Party Express thing.

I thought that was a show that Hannity put on.

 

The Tea Party Movement has influenced the election of certain tea party candidates with tea party principles and directives. It has resulted in a tsunami. Those elected officials are there to stop our runaway govenment and turn things into a positive direction, not make kissy kissy with the "enemy" (as Obama puts it)

 

What's wrong with that?

 

Evad,

 

It's important to understand the difference between the Tea Party Movement and the Tea Party Express. It's important to understand the distinction because they are NOT the same thing. As a matter of fact, this summer, the Tea Party Movement sent out a press release disassociating itself from the Express. The Express makes money and gives big money to the people who staff it and to candidates they put in place. The Express paid Palin 40 million dollars this year to be the cheerleader for the candidates chosen by the Express. It gave her a mighty big incentive to be its primary spokesperson. The TPM has no leader and no way to collect funds. The guy who started the Express made himself leader and encouraged donations that went to his PAC under his discretion.

 

The problem with the Express PAC who hijacked the Tea Party name is that 99% of people don't realize they are not the same thing. I went to 2 Tea Parties and the people who went were of all political persuasions protesting out of control spending coming out of DC. They wanted fiscal conservatism. The Express turned it into a social conservative venue.

 

The Express will be behind Palin's presidential run. Anyone can run for President, so that's not the issue.

 

Understanding the difference between the TPM and the Express PAC should concern every Conservative since we didn't pick the guy in charge. He's making all the decisions about what is going on in DC. He's the one deciding to take over the GOP and that's the main problem I have with the PAC.

 

The PAC through Palin is already causing dissension and name calling. The last thing we need is a big rift in the GOP 2 years before the election. That's why everyone should care. The kingmaker, who started the Express, is taking control of the Party. Personally, I like Rove and Krauthammer and trust them more than some unknown man who has made himself a multimillionaire by pretending he is the Tea Party Movement.

[Pepper]

Stella Evad and SrWoodChuck areafiftyone

 

Good posts.

 

Stella, thank you for pointing out that distinction between the movement and the express.

 

Evad, I never made any distinction either.

 

"I won't stand against people who are on the side of the free, and I'll support anyone that keeps me & mine free.....Republican, Tea party, Independent.....even conservative Democrat, if there is such an animal. " SrWoodChuck

 

SrWoodChuck, I vote conservative first every time, party label second.

[Evad]

Stella

Thanks.

I'm not sure I disagree with what I now understand is the "Express" but what you say makes sense.

I do know that:

1--I'm concerned that Rove continued to attack the republican candidate (O'Donnell) after she had won the primary...an absolute no no.

 

gotta run..will continue later

[pollyannaish]

" I don't like that poll from Rasmussen - it means that 59% of the American people don't trust the Republicans either."

I don't "trust" Republicans either.

I've been "Lucy and the footballed" too many times.

 

But I have to admit, I am not getting the distinction about this Tea Party Express thing.

I thought that was a show that Hannity put on.

 

The Tea Party Movement has influenced the election of certain tea party candidates with tea party principles and directives. It has resulted in a tsunami. Those elected officials are there to stop our runaway govenment and turn things into a positive direction, not make kissy kissy with the "enemy" (as Obama puts it)

 

What's wrong with that?

 

Evad,

 

It's important to understand the difference between the Tea Party Movement and the Tea Party Express. It's important to understand the distinction because they are NOT the same thing. As a matter of fact, this summer, the Tea Party Movement sent out a press release disassociating itself from the Express. The Express makes money and gives big money to the people who staff it and to candidates they put in place. The Express paid Palin 40 million dollars this year to be the cheerleader for the candidates chosen by the Express. It gave her a mighty big incentive to be its primary spokesperson. The TPM has no leader and no way to collect funds. The guy who started the Express made himself leader and encouraged donations that went to his PAC under his discretion.

 

The problem with the Express PAC who hijacked the Tea Party name is that 99% of people don't realize they are not the same thing. I went to 2 Tea Parties and the people who went were of all political persuasions protesting out of control spending coming out of DC. They wanted fiscal conservatism. The Express turned it into a social conservative venue.

 

The Express will be behind Palin's presidential run. Anyone can run for President, so that's not the issue.

 

Understanding the difference between the TPM and the Express PAC should concern every Conservative since we didn't pick the guy in charge. He's making all the decisions about what is going on in DC. He's the one deciding to take over the GOP and that's the main problem I have with the PAC.

 

The PAC through Palin is already causing dissension and name calling. The last thing we need is a big rift in the GOP 2 years before the election. That's why everyone should care. The kingmaker, who started the Express, is taking control of the Party. Personally, I like Rove and Krauthammer and trust them more than some unknown man who has made himself a multimillionaire by pretending he is the Tea Party Movement.

 

I'm curious about the Palin payment from the TPE. Do you have a reference for that I could follow?

[NCTexan]

1--I'm concerned that Rove continued to attack the republican candidate (O'Donnell) after she had won the primary...an absolute no no.

 

gotta run..will continue later

I love Rove but was totally dismayed with his knee-jerk child-like response on her winning the primary.

 

It served nothing besides Rove's ego (for the moment) and the DEMs long term benefit.

[Valin]

but Palin has made it very clear that the "elite" GOP, as she calls them, will not be called into the discussion.

 

Source please

 

Also define "Elite GOP".

[Al_Simmons]

1--I'm concerned that Rove continued to attack the republican candidate (O'Donnell) after she had won the primary...an absolute no no.

 

gotta run..will continue later

I love Rove but was totally dismayed with his knee-jerk child-like response on her winning the primary.

 

It served nothing besides Rove's ego (for the moment) and the DEMs long term benefit.

 

 

This incident served as a 'red flag' about Rove. He's protecting his 'turf' rather than doing what's best for the nation here.

 

As I've said elsewhere, I would ask this 'genius' where the "permanent GOP coalition" that he was touting in 2002 went? He's not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.

 

He got out of line here and was properly smacked down for it. I would hope he learned from the experience but I doubt it. His reactions to O'Donnell's primary win were so transparently calculated.

[Rheo]

You guys sure live in a different part of the Country than we do and have a different perspective and view.

 

As for "whining" I am one of those who was absolutely sick in 2008 --not just whining but mad as the proverbial wet hen at one trick voters who sat home AND at the RNC and the leaders of the GOP and many of our Congressmen and Senators (NOT ALL). Why? Because like we told the RNC when they constantly sent us money raising letters or called us (as previous generous donors) we were sick of the RINOS/inside the beltway/elites or whatever title you choose to call them NOT standing up to the constant drip -drip drip of W being called a "complete failure", "a dismal failure", a liar, a lover of only the rich yada yada, yada. We told them until they stopped being so accommodating and reaching across the aisle and giving the liberal Democrats their way and compromising and start paying attention to and touting some of the so called conservative candidates that we were closing the bank. We would still vote R but...

I still feel the same.

 

I am proud that the Republican House stood firm and fast against the Dems but I can pretty well take that stance to the bank that they would not have stood as one man without the Grass Roots revolt that was peacefully but determinedly underway. There are some really good people in the Senate and the House and they deserve to be reelected.

 

However even Peggy Noonan who is about as Republican elite as they come credits the Tea Party movement with saving the Republican Party.

Even Karl Rove --whom I like tremendously --has said he should have spoken out and defended more. Of course he was so hated and vilified by the Dems that it would have done no good.

 

There is a reason why we have Parties. There is supposed to be a difference. The Republicans were fast on their way to becoming a non entity.

 

As for what happens in 2012-

we do agree that the Party needs to have a message and an agreed to leadership and it is up to all Republicans and the so called Country Club elites inside the beltway need to listen. Sorry if we who are pro life and cling to our guns and religion embarrass some of them but we are not the ones who need to change.

 

These are not normal times and politics as usual. Too much is at stake that is vital to our future.

------------------------

Btw, NC has a GOP controlled General Assembly now for the first time in over 100 years.

Eureka!!

Every single Republican who ran on our side ran as a conservative standing up for and with the Tea Party Movement. They all won except for a couple of really good people in gerrymandered National districts who lost to the incumbent Dem.

I had missed this good post.

[Rheo]

What DeMint and his jolly group need to understand is that the majority of people don't want this. They consider this group extreme. A lot of the GOP in the Coast states and Illinois are happy with the regular GOP. Bachmann is only the representative of Minnesota. If they are not careful, they will cause a huge rift in the GOP and make sure that Independents flee. I know a lot of Conservatives don't care about this but there are not enough of True Conservatives to win an election.

 

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people. They are more into dictating their philosophy and it's not going to work. Otherwise, Colorado, Deleware, Nevada and even Alaska would be in the R column.

Colorado, Delaware and Nevada were pretty big long shots at moving to the R column, at least in this election.

 

But this election surely moved and opened up the dialogue in these states to a more conservative mindset or an offset to the liberal mindset to which they have been accustomed.

I say, good.

DeMint and his jolly group are for less govt and lower taxes... I say good.

Apparently the independents said the same or we would not have had the victories on 11/2/2010.

IMO

[Evad]

What DeMint and his jolly group need to understand is that the majority of people don't want this. They consider this group extreme. A lot of the GOP in the Coast states and Illinois are happy with the regular GOP. Bachmann is only the representative of Minnesota. If they are not careful, they will cause a huge rift in the GOP and make sure that Independents flee. I know a lot of Conservatives don't care about this but there are not enough of True Conservatives to win an election.

 

I don't see a lot of thinking going on with these people. They are more into dictating their philosophy and it's not going to work. Otherwise, Colorado, Deleware, Nevada and even Alaska would be in the R column.

Colorado, Delaware and Nevada were pretty big long shots at moving to the R column, at least in this election.

 

But this election surely moved and opened up the dialogue in these states to a more conservative mindset or an offset to the liberal mindset to which they have been accustomed.

I say, good.

DeMint and his jolly group are for less govt and lower taxes... I say good.

Apparently the independents said the same or we would not have had the victories on 11/2/2010.

IMO

 

Yes..as the Brits would say, "Jolly Good ole Chap"

I like it...the jolly people.

 

The pubbies need to be as civil and nice as humanly possible, so cordial that butter would melt in their mouths.

And at the same time they need to be uncompromising on the core beliefs and reasons they were sent to fulfill.

The jolly people can and must prevail and..

we should be thinking about and planning for November 2012 right now.