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Ukraine Liveblog Day 30: Ukraine Military Bases Under Siege

 

 

1242 GMT: The headquarters for Ukraines navy in Crimea, located in Sevastopol, has been taken over by Crimean self-defence units, supported by Russian troops. Al Jazeera reports:

 

 

 

Several men in civilian clothing entered a building at the Ukrainian naval headquarters in the Crimean port of Sevastopol, later joined by military-looking personnel believed to be Russian.

 

A naval spokesman on Wednesday said there had been no violence during the takeover and he believed the men belonged to so-called self-defence units, mainly made up of volunteers who have supported Crimeas transition from Ukrainian to Russian control, Reuters news agency reported.

 

About a dozen Ukrainian servicemen were later seen exiting the base unarmed. Al Jazeeras Jennifer Glasse said the lower ranked Ukrainian servicemen were just walking off the base.

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Ukraine Liveblog Day 30: Ukraine Military Bases Under Siege

 

1314 GMT: The Ukrainian prosecutor has established the identity of the snipers who murdered people on Institutska Street on Maidan Square, delfi.lv reports

Nikolai Golomsha, first deputy prosecutor general, announced yesterday that “foreign citizens are being investigated for complicity in the mass shooting of people in the center of the Ukrainian capital.”

 

The claims of involvement of the opposition (to Yanukovych) at the time in hiring snipers have not been confirmed, said Golomsha. Law-enforcers have the addresses of the location of the snipers, and lists of people who took part in the shooting of civilians. The snipers’ weapons have been seized and are being inspected by investigators. There was no word on whether or not any arrests have been made yet in the case.

 

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Nationalist Svoboda Party members of parliament assault First Channel TV manager (VIDEO)

Olga Rudenko

March 19, 2014, 3:45 p.m. | Ukraine

 

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Several members of the nationalist Svoboda Party scandalously assaulted the acting CEO of state-owned First National TV channel. On March 18, lawmakers Ihor Miroshnichenko, Andriy Illenko and Bohdan Beniuk arrived at the TV headquarters with several other men and forced its Oleksandr Panteleymonov to quit his post.

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Several members of the nationalist Svoboda Party scandalously assaulted the acting CEO of state-owned First National TV channel. On March 18, lawmakers Ihor Miroshnichenko, Andriy Illenko and Bohdan Beniuk arrived at the TV headquarters with several other men and forced Oleksandr Panteleymonov to quit his post.

 

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In the video, which was first published by Svoboda spokesman Oleksandr Aronets and republished by Ukrainska Pravda after Aronets removed it, the members of parliament are seen questioning Panteleymonov in his office about Pershiy broadcasting Russian Presidents Vladimir Putins speech about Crimea separation that took place in Moscow on March 18.

 

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Even Svoboda party head and Miroshnichenkos friend Oleh Tyahnybok condemned the attack. Such actions were fine yesterday (during the protests), but now they are inappropriate, Tyahnybok said in official statement.

 

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Crimean Tatars Will Have to Vacate Land Official

 

MOSCOW, March 18 (RIA Novosti) Ukraines breakaway region of Crimea will ask Tatars to vacate part of the land where they now live in exchange for new territory elsewhere in the region, a top Crimean government official said Tuesday.

 

Crimean Deputy Prime Minister Rustam Temirgaliyev said in an interview with RIA Novosti on Tuesday the new government in Crimea, where residents voted Sunday to become part of Russia, wants to regularize the land unofficially taken over by Crimean Tatar squatters following the collapse of the Soviet Union.

 

We have asked the Crimean Tatars to vacate part of their land, which is required for social needs, Temirgaliyev said. But we are ready to allocate and legalize many other plots of land to ensure a normal life for the Crimean Tatars, he said.

 

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Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

Ron Paul

March 17, 2014

 

Hey every one Ron Paul wrote something (who knew he could write?), and man is it ever important.

 

Taft/Paul2024

 

 

The only problem I have with the Crimean secession is that we aren’t allowed such direct democracy here at home. I love how articles intended to criticize the good doctor only underline the neocon determination to fight nationalism and illiberalism to the last American as if that’s a point in their favor.

 

abobo on March 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM

 

 

 

 

Yes your head should be hurting right now.

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Is a New Alliance Forming in the East?

3/19/14

 

Putin’s actions in Ukraine may be pushing Russia closer to China and Iran. A smart piece by Seyed Hossein Mousavian, former Iranian Ambassador to Germany, considers the possibility that an empowered Iran-China-Russia alliance will emerge from the aftermath of the Ukraine crisis. Mousavian predicts that the frost over U.S.-Russia relations will make it extremely difficult for Washington to solicit help from Moscow in its attempts to counter Tehran’s nuclear ambitions. Iran would only be rational to seize this opportunity to warm up to Russia. Meanwhile, Putin may use his leverage with Iran to bargain for less severe sanctions against Russia.

 

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The Path to War
By Alan Caruba Full Story

 

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Having lived through the long Cold War with the former Soviet Union, including the Cuban Missile crisis, my thoughts over those years were that their leaders would not risk war because the outcome would be disastrous for Russia. When it collapsed in 1991, its Eastern Europe satellite states broke free to establish their independence.Scissors-32x32.png

 

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Report: Susan Rice wants affirmative action towards Russia
Paul Mirengoff
3/19/14

To date, Team Obama’s response to Russia’s takeover of Crimea has been criminally lame. But now Susan Rice reportedly wants to take affirmative action.

Unfortunately, the affirmative action she contemplates is affirmative action in the legal sense — affirmative action on behalf of women.

The post of U.S. ambassador to Russia has been vacant for three weeks. Al Kamen of the Washington Post reports “we’re hearing that national security adviser Susan Rice would like to place a woman in Moscow.”

 

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It could be worse, though. Last week it was rumored that White House press secretary Jay Carney, who once worked in Moscow for Time Magazine, wanted the job. In what universe does unsuccessful sparring with the White House press corps qualify someone to spar with the Russian bear?

 

Still, I concede that it probably doesn’t make much difference who becomes the new ambassador to Russia. Obama, assisted by John Kerry and Susan Rice, will set our Russia policy. And they will set it with the same lack of seriousness that lends plausibility to reports that Rice wants to make an affirmative action pick for the post of ambassador.

 

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These....people are criminally stupid.

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A Coup in Crimea—or in Russia?

By Scott McConnellMarch 19, 2014

As has been foreshadowed for weeks, Vladimir Putin has “reunited” Crimea with Russia. Putin spoke resonantly of the deep historical ties between Moscow and Crimea. One need not go back, as Putin did, 1,000 years to see it: Crimea’s “Russian-ness” is quite visible in, for instance, the memoirs of Winston Churchill, who opens his chapter on the Yalta Conference (held in February 1945—perhaps the last time Russian, British, and American leaders were on good terms) with the following:

The Soviet headquarters at Yalta were in the Yusopov Palace, and from this centre Stalin and Molotov carried on the government of Russia and control of their immense front, now in violent action. President Roosevelt was given the even more splendid Livadia Palace, close at hand, and it was here, in order to spare him physical inconvenience that all the plenary meetings were held. This exhausted the undamaged accommodation at Yalta. I and the principal members of the British delegation were assigned a very large villa about five miles away which had been built in the early nineteenth century by an English architect for a Russian Prince Vorontzov, one time Imperial ambassador to the Court of St. James. Scissors-32x32.pnghttp://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/a-coup-in-crimea-or-in-russia/

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A Coup in Crimeaor in Russia?

By Scott McConnell March 19, 2014

Scott McConnell is a founding editor of The American Conservative....and will very soon be working for RT. The guy is trying to be very clever.

 

Here's what happened.

Yanukovych government was 1. a incredible corrupt government

2. In Putins pocket.

3. Yanukovych and his gang of thugs got thrown out after they caved into Putins bribe.

 

So

1. Putin knows there is a wuss with no interest of or knowledge of foreign affairs

2. He see's this as a golden opportunity to take another step in returning the Russian empire

3. He did it...international norms be damned...by means of threats and an incredible fixed election.

 

And no mention of the Eeeeeviiiillll Noe-Cons that the moron isolationists are always so worried about.

 

 

If you get the impression that I have no use for Patty 'the punk' Buchanan and the rest of his gang of clowns at The American Conservative....You win a cookie.

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Daniel Sandford @BBCDanielS Follow

Remember how Barack Obama was a bit worried about the Magnitsky list? Well now he has just hit President Putin's closest circle.

10:50 AM - 20 Mar 2014

 

Tony Halpin @tonyhalpin Follow

Medvedev must be pretty pissed off. Even Obama doesn't rate him enough to impose sanctions...

10:54 AM - 20 Mar 2014

 

Ukraine-related Designations
3/20/2014

OFFICE OF FOREIGN ASSETS CONTROL
Specially Designated Nationals List Update

The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List:

 

 

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The Ternopil

 

Gunmen storm Ukrainian warship in Crimea: spokesman

AFP News

3/20/14

 

Ukraine's defence ministry on Thursday said around 20 gunmen seized a Ukrainian warship, the Ternopil, in the port of Sevastopol in Crimea.

"The ship has been taken," Vladislav Seleznyov, the defence ministry's spokesman in Crimea, said on his Facebook page, after earlier telling AFP: "The assault has begun".

 

On Facebook, Seleznyov said pro-Moscow militiamen and Russian soldiers cordoned off the area, while a boat with the gunmen on board approached the Ternopil and stormed it.

"Stun grenades were used during the assault and automatic fire was heard," he said.

 

Called by AFP, an officer on board the Slavutich, a second Ukrainian warship next to the Ternopil, did not answer.

 

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Putin’s Iron Fist Meets Obama’s Iron Will as US Announces Potentially Crippling Sanctions
By: Jason Easley
Thursday, March, 20th, 2014, 12:03 pm

 

The president framed the new sanctions as choices that the Russian government made. Obama said, “I signed a new executive order today that gives us the authority to impose sanctions, not just on individuals, but on key sectors of the Russian economy. This is not our preferred outcome. These sanctions would not only have a significant impact on the Russian economy but could also be disruptive to the global economy. However, Russia must know that further escalation will only isolate it further from the international community. The basic principles that govern relations between nations in Europe and around the world must be upheld in the 21st Century. That includes respect for sovereignty or territorial integrity. The notion that nations do not simply redraw borders, or make decisions at the expense of their neighbors because they are stronger and more powerful.”

 

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That's a good one Jason!

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The Ternopil

 

Gunmen storm Ukrainian warship in Crimea: spokesman

AFP News

3/20/14

 

Ukraine's defence ministry on Thursday said around 20 gunmen seized a Ukrainian warship, the Ternopil, in the port of Sevastopol in Crimea.

"The ship has been taken," Vladislav Seleznyov, the defence ministry's spokesman in Crimea, said on his Facebook page, after earlier telling AFP: "The assault has begun".

 

On Facebook, Seleznyov said pro-Moscow militiamen and Russian soldiers cordoned off the area, while a boat with the gunmen on board approached the Ternopil and stormed it.

"Stun grenades were used during the assault and automatic fire was heard," he said.

 

Called by AFP, an officer on board the Slavutich, a second Ukrainian warship next to the Ternopil, did not answer.

 

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More protecting Russian Speakers no doubt.

 

Steiner@Steiner1776 23m

#Russia #Crimea Video footage of ukrainian ship seizure by pro russian militia

#Sevastopol

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Ukraine Liveblog Day 31: Ukrainian Troops Leaving Crimea

 

1907 GMT: In Kryvuy Rih, a central Ukrainian city (map), a group of combat tanks from the 17th Tank Division is on fire.

Explosions and gunfire can be heard, but this could be “cook off” as ammunition inside the tank explodes.

 

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Accident or our friends in Spetsnaz?

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Why Moldova, Estonia may feel uneasy about Russias actions

Nick Logan

March 20 2014

 

Opinions on Russias annexation of Crimea and its, admitted or not, involvement in the Ukraine crisis vary in former Soviet states.

 

Ukraine is obviously unhappy about losing a chunk of its territory, while Kazakhstan has said it recognizes the results on Sundays referendum.

 

But, some countries with Russian populations are watching and wondering if Moscow may be knocking on their doors next.

 

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