pollyannaish Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 We need to not be high diving each other over the shutdown also. Bad, bad, bad optics. We need to keep our eyes in the desired outcome and maintain our focus. We have not won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudjo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 @pollyannaish - so sorry, know it's hard for you all to deal with. Was worried about #2 son but like he said when they close him down it's about all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino67 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Fortunately, income delayed, not lost. Still portends some difficult times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 If you are furloughed, that income is lost to the workers. Hubby would not get back pay. He looked it up today. Upper Management and salaried high earners will. Everyone else, no. One thing politicians of all stripes do is to protect themselves first. Oh the joys of being a worker bee instead of a queen bee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudjo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Wonder what our wonderful gov spends on the Panda Cam? Seems like a silly expense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I don't mean to be whiney. We will survive. But we have not recovered in the last seven years. It's become a lifestyle. Heh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrWoodchuck Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 We need to not be high diving each other over the shutdown also. Bad, bad, bad optics. We need to keep our eyes in the desired outcome and maintain our focus. We have not won. So sorry, @pollyannaish. No we haven't won. There are no winners.....only some people losing more than others. It is criminal that the regime picks winners & losers....instead of a balanced approach......and Obama is still jetting to Asia & spending a quarter billion. My opinion is that all House & Senate members should not be paid during a shutdown....as well as the pResident & VP......and they should be "grounded" until they compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Top 10 Takeaways: Public Opinion on the Affordable Care Act Karlyn Bowman and Andrew Rugg Tuesday, October 1, 2013 With the ACA's exchanges going live today, let's take a look at public opinion on the law. What are Americans saying about the Affordable Care Act (ACA) as the start date for the exchanges arrives and Congress continues to debate delaying and defunding it? How have views of the law changed over time? At least a dozen pollsters have asked about the bill (and then the law) since the debate over it began early in the Obama administration. We have tracked their efforts since the beginning of the battle over Obamacare; here is where things stand today: 1. Views on the law: Most Americans dont like it. In every poll conducted by eight major national pollsters this year, opposition to the Affordable Care Act outweighs support.1 In the September 2013 CBS News/New York Times poll, for example, 39 percent of respondents approve of the law and 51 percent disapprove. In the mid-September Kaiser Family Foundation poll, 39 percent have a favorable view of it and 43 percent an unfavorable one. The late September CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found 38 percent in favor and 57 percent opposed. 2. Intensity: Opponents have it. Only a few pollsters ask people whether they feel strongly about their views of the law. But as those polls make clear, some Americans are adamant about it. Take the latest Kaiser poll, which shows that 20 percent of respondents have a very favorable view of the ACA but 30 percent have a very unfavorable one. Throughout 2013, in this poll and others, the intensity of feelings has been stronger on the negative side. (Snip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Media Spin Alert.... Disapproval on Budget Debate Puts the GOP at Greater Risk Gary Langer Sep 30, 2013 A new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds the Republicans in Congress at greater risk of political damage in a government shutdown: Sixty-three percent of Americans disapprove of their handling of the budget debate, 13 points worse than Barack Obamas rating on the issue. Neither side gets remotely positive scores, indicating plenty of irritation to go around. But Obamas 41-50 percent approval rating for handling the budget negotiations far exceeds the GOPs 26-63 percent. The Democrats in Congress fall between the two, at 34-56 percent. While these views are highly partisan and ideological, the Republicans are weaker in their base. Seventy-one percent of Democrats and 61 percent of liberals approve of Obamas handling of the issue. Fewer Republicans or conservatives approve of the GOPs performance, 56 percent and just 40 percent, respectively. (Snip) In the political center, this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, finds that 56 percent of independents disapprove of Obamas handling of the issue. But 66 percent disapprove of how the Republicans in Congress are dealing with it. (Snip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Republicans are bad terrible evil wicked people...oh and they are insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Looks like O'care sites are not doing well. Everyone should go try and check them out. Went to what I think is supposed to be the Texas site (hey if I can't figure out for sure....) and most of the links die with server errors. Overloaded?,Not Tested?, Not Ready? All of those? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Looks like O'care sites are not doing well. Everyone should go try and check them out. Went to what I think is supposed to be the Texas site (hey if I can't figure out for sure....) and most of the links die with server errors. Overloaded?,Not Tested?, Not Ready? All of those? I'm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Looks like O'care sites are not doing well. Everyone should go try and check them out. Went to what I think is supposed to be the Texas site (hey if I can't figure out for sure....) and most of the links die with server errors. Overloaded?,Not Tested?, Not Ready? All of those? I'm Gottlieb and Astrue: ObamaCare's Technology Mess At least a half dozen state exchanges won't offer full online enrollment thanks to unresolved software problems. SCOTT GOTTLIEB AND MICHAEL ASTRUE 9/30/13 President Obama is bracing Americans for inevitable problems as the Affordable Care Act rolls out this week, but what he calls "glitches" are hardly routine. Information technology is ObamaCare's Achilles' heel. The faulty IT will expose Americans to lost data, attempts to enroll online that fail and the risk of fraud. There are two key technological flaws in ObamaCare. First is the "hub"the software to link servers at the Treasury Department, the Internal Revenue Service, Homeland Security and state agencies to verify the income and health-insurance status of enrollees and ensure that they are eligible for subsidies. The other flaw is the "portal"the federally run IT platform that is supposed to let consumers compare health plans and select one that best suits their needs. In planning ObamaCare's IT infrastructure, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) dawdled for more than a year under Administrator Donald Berwick until Marilyn Tavenner took over in December 2011. Even then the agency was slow to outsource key contracts and turned to what insiders say were not top-quality programmers. CMS did not sign a contract for a backstop system to process paper verifications and do paper verifications of online applications until July. (Snip) If these guys are correct these might not be short term glitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geee Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Senate Dems reject formal talks with House to end shutdown Senate Democrats on Tuesday rejected negotiating with the House on government funding, leaving no clear path for ending the federal shutdown that began overnight. The Senate voted 54-46 to table a House request for a conference committee on a continuing resolution (CR), marking the third time that Democrats have voted down legislation from the lower chamber since Monday. "The government is closed," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said. "All over America federal employees are getting furloughs this morning … because of the irrationality that is going on in the other side of the Capitol." Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Democrats had been rooting for a shutdown all along. http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/325747-senate-dems-reject-formal-talks-with-house-to-end-shutdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggingtree Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The Man Who Kept Obamacare Out of Texas By: Brad Jackson (Diary) | October 1st, 2013 at 12:00 PM Welcome to day one of Obamacare America. One of the controversial portions of the law involves the expansion of state Medicaid programs, with strings attached of course. Twenty-Three states and the District of Columbia have agreed to institute the Medicaid expansion portion of the President’s so-called Affordable Care Act. Texas, thankfully, is not one of them. Much of the credit for that goes to someone you may not know, conservative State Representative Brandon Creighton. Texas has been home to some conservative heroes during the last decade. Governor Rick Perry is responsible for a booming state economy that weathered the economic downtown better than any other. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott has joked that his job involves waking up, suing the Obama Administration and going back to bed. He has pushed back against Washington over-reach in the federal court system with a force and pace heretofore unseen in America. We’ve also seen the rise of the Tea Party’s biggest star, the newest U.S. Senator from Texas, Ted Cruz. The little campaign that could saw Cruz harness http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/01/the-man-who-kept-obamacare-out-of-texas/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrWoodchuck Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 WWII Vets Knock Over Shutdown Barrier to Visit Memorial http://freebeacon.com/wwii-vets-knock-over-shutdown-barrier-to-visit-wwii-memorial/ Photo by Leo Shane III Leo Shane III @LeoShane Credit where due -- I watched Rep Steve King distract a park police officer while vets and staffers knocked down the fences here. #shutdown 10:00 AM - 1 Oct 2013 WashingtonFreeBeacon via Wirecutter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrWoodchuck Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Under Booooosh....when the Senate & House had Democrat majorities.....they decided not to fund this law that was passed.... No Money For Fence In $2.9 Trillion Budget http://sweetness-light.com/archive/no-money-for-border-fence-in-29-trillion-budget#.UksP-BBr1Ms Published February 6, 2007 The White House budget asks for $1 billion in new money to build the fence. Even coupled with $1.5 billion appropriated in the past two years, this would not pay for the entire fence called for in a bill Congress passed and the president signed into law in October. Congressional fence supporters said Mr. Bush must make good on the entire fence. "We want to see the full fence built — every smuggler’s corridor is designated with a time and physical description to see a double fence," said Rep. Duncan Hunter, California Republican, who wrote the first bill to put fencing along key crossings. While the fence would cover about 700 miles of the border, Mr. Hunter said it would amount to 854 miles of actual fencing. He said by his calculations, enough money is either already in the pipeline or included in the new budget to build all or almost all of that. Overall, the Homeland Security budget would increase 1.3 percent — a figure Sen. Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia Democrat and chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, called "ridiculous." And Rep. David E. Price, North Carolina Democrat and chairman of the House Appropriations subcommittee on homeland security, said his panel will scrub the request to try to figure out what changes are needed. "The subcommittee will need to take a fresh look at whether essential security priorities would be adequately supported under this budget," he said. So............were those Democrats..........terrorist's with bombs strapped to their chest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 So a walk thru park with no admission booth is closed why? Looks like someone had those closed signs printed up at some cost and surely ahead of time. It is all an orchestrated scam on both sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Are sad stories about Government workers really going to work? http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/30/news/economy/federal-worker-shutdown/?google_editors_picks=true What's more, their pay has been frozen at 2010 levels without annual cost-of-living increases, and salary increases only for those who have been promoted. And just this month, workers learned of a 3.7% hike in premiums for their 2014 health insurance. Boo hoo. No pay increase in 3 years and they have gov. provided health care and a JOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 OH NO! The Washington Zoo Panda Cam has been cut off. I'm sure the zoo's internet service has not been terminated, so don't see any fiscal reason to cut this off.... could there be another reason? And why is the zoo not self sustaining? It is very expensive to get into zoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickydog Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 OH NO! The Washington Zoo Panda Cam has been cut off. I'm sure the zoo's internet service has not been terminated, so don't see any fiscal reason to cut this off.... could there be another reason? And why is the zoo not self sustaining? It is very expensive to get into zoos. It's all for show. Like closing the White House because of the sequester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 OH NO! The Washington Zoo Panda Cam has been cut off. I'm sure the zoo's internet service has not been terminated, so don't see any fiscal reason to cut this off.... could there be another reason? And why is the zoo not self sustaining? It is very expensive to get into zoos. It's all for show. Like closing the White House because of the sequester. Cancelling Navy/AirForce Game? Are tickets free to those games? Seems like it would be cheaper to keep the game than cancel it and refund tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Alot of agencies are "shutting down" their websites. I could see not being able to add new content, but it takes about as much money to display their shutdown messages as it does their existing content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudjo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Alot of agencies are "shutting down" their websites. I could see not being able to add new content, but it takes about as much money to display their shutdown messages as it does their existing content. They just want to show us how bad off we are without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudjo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 OH NO! The Washington Zoo Panda Cam has been cut off. I'm sure the zoo's internet service has not been terminated, so don't see any fiscal reason to cut this off.... could there be another reason? And why is the zoo not self sustaining? It is very expensive to get into zoos. I think it should be left off , they spend too darn much money on silly things that they have no business being involved in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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