Valin Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 1. Swing States. That can be broken down by state even further, because every state has swing counties. 2. From my observation, people in the middle tend to be "leaners" one way or another when it comes to ideas. Tthey have a tendency to be extremely suspicious of political parties whom they see as being more loyal to their parties than to their country. They see parties as being more committed to imposing their own ideas, then working together for a solution. They tend to be somewhat passive about politics, vote regularly, but not tuned in enough to know if rhetoric matches performance. They are situationally for, and against, government. They are what I call, political skimmers. They want good economics and low taxes, but don't feel banking regulations are a bad thing. They don't distinguish between local, state and federal governments. They like entitlement programs, but want a balanced budget. They can't figure out what the big deal about Terri Schaivo or abortion is, because it's none of their business...they just don't want to pay for either one. Education is good, war is bad. Big Business can't be trusted, but they are pleased with their local Walmart and Bank of America branch. They want their roads fixed and to not have to spend hours on the road, support recycling, clean air and clean water, drive a Prius to save money, but wouldn't step foot on a bus or train. They hate Obama care, but they hate their insurance company too. They want someone to fix that. What they look for in a candidate is practical solutions that aren't going to hurt them directly. They do not want a radical departures and big changes. They want "corrections." You and I would put these people on the left. People on the left would put these people on the right. They are the 30% that still watch ABC/NBC/CBS news for an hour every night. "They want good economics and low taxes, but don't feel banking regulations are a bad thing. They don't distinguish between local, state and federal governments. They like entitlement programs, but want a balanced budget." In other words they are really really really confused. This makes my head hurt Yes! But they don't care enough to really understand. I find "the people in the middle" far more frustrating than liberals in debating because they are so unprincipled that you can't get a good foundation on which to discuss the issues. But that doesn't mean they don't vote. Then we've got a job of work to do. This is where we come into the picture. To be ready to educate people, and ask the simple questions (pat. pend.), point out the cold hard facts, show people where we want to go, and how we can get there and why they should want to come along. Because I guarantee you the left has no problem doing this. One of the things I like to do is print out articles and leave them laying around for some poor unsuspecting person to pick up and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestVirginiaRebel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican, And One You Should Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Ten Things You Should Do If You’re An “Anybody But Mitt” Republican, And One You Should Not Beat ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestVirginiaRebel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Ten Things You Should Do If You're An "Anybody But Mitt" Republican, And One You Should Not Beat ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Team Obama Confirms Bain Director One Of Its Top Campaign Bundlers… And while there’s no doubt that Mitt Romney is Wall Street’s broadly preferred candidate, Obama’s current bundler list is full of financiers. Among them is a managing director of Bain Capital, the firm Mitt Romney founded, and whose name Obama and Newt Gingrich have sought to make synonymous with vicious layoffs and predatory financial engineering. Jonathan Lavine, the managing director at Bain, raised more than $100,000 for Obama, according to the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Three cheers for RomneyCare Ann bones Coulter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 In the rumor mill and does it really matter category..... An advisor to Donald Trump says he will make a major announcement in Las Vegas tomorrow. Sources tell the 8 News NOW I-Team Trump will endorse Newt Gingrich. According to Trump advisor Michael Cohen, “Donald J. Trump will be making a major announcement tomorrow at 12:30 p.m. at Trump International Hotel & Tower, Las Vegas, Nevada… The announcement will pertain to the Presidential race.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Ten Things You Should Do If You're An "Anybody But Mitt" Republican, And One You Should Not Beat ya! If you want a headache it's also posted at a certain other conservative forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 @Rheo Be Still My Beating Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 @Rheo Be Still My Beating Heart. Doesn't that mean you would be dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 @Rheo Be Still My Beating Heart. Doesn't that mean you would be dead? Dead or listening to the hair piece? That's a tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 SANTORUM RELEASES NEW STATEWIDE TELEVISION ADVERTISEMENT FOR NEVADA AND COLORADO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Here is a headline we can all hope comes true. See map and more at link. Gallup Predicts Huge Obama Electoral Loss… If President Obama carries only those states where he had a net positive approval rating in 2011 (e.g. Michigan where he is up 48 percent to 44 percent), Obama would lose the 2012 election to the Republican nominee 323 electoral votes to 215. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Here is a headline we can all hope comes true. See map and more at link. Gallup Predicts Huge Obama Electoral Loss… If President Obama carries only those states where he had a net positive approval rating in 2011 (e.g. Michigan where he is up 48 percent to 44 percent), Obama would lose the 2012 election to the Republican nominee 323 electoral votes to 215. From his lips to Gods ear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 SANTORUM RELEASES NEW STATEWIDE TELEVISION ADVERTISEMENT FOR NEVADA AND COLORADO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 @Casino67 SAN ANTONIO (AP) — The Texas Democratic Party and minority groups suing the state over voting maps say they're newly doubtful that an April 3 primary date can be salvaged. Minority groups and the Texas attorney general's office are negotiating in hopes of compromising on temporary maps by a Monday deadline. If they don't, the Texas primary will be pushed back for a second time. The Texas Democratic Party stated in a filing Wednesday that it wouldn't oppose a split primary if the state shouldered the extra cost. KXAN News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I do not like the fact that Newt is challenging the rules in Florida after the fact. It is far too self serving. If it was based on principle he would have challenged them AHEAD of the primary. This is EXACTLY the kind of crap that makes me distrust Newt so much. Preach about how important it is that illegals not get amnesty because it isn't fair to people who followed the rules...but then go out and in a case where everyone else knows what the rules are when they start...challenge them so you come out better. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 SANTORUM ANNOUNCES COLORADO STEERING COMMITTEE List Includes Strong Conservatives Like Former Congressmen Tom Tancredo and Bob Schaffer & Former Lt. Governor Jane Norton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I do not like the fact that Newt is challenging the rules in Florida after the fact. It is far too self serving. If it was based on principle he would have challenged them AHEAD of the primary. This is EXACTLY the kind of crap that makes me distrust Newt so much. Preach about how important it is that illegals not get amnesty because it isn't fair to people who followed the rules...but then go out and in a case where everyone else knows what the rules are when they start...challenge them so you come out better. Ugh. Is this to what you are referring? And if so, how is that changing the rules as opposed to having them enforced as written? The Newt Gingrich campaign is gearing up to challenge the results of the Florida Republican presidential primary based on the Republican National Committee's own rules which state that no contest can be winner-take-all prior to April 1, 2012. (See RNC memo.) It was assumed that Mitt Romney, who won Tuesday's contest, would gain all 50 of the state's delegates. But the Gingrich campaign plans to challenge Florida's allocation and demand the delegates be divvied up proportionally. (See Gingrich memo.) Fox News has learned exclusively that on Thursday, a Florida Gingrich campaign official will begin the process of trying to have the RNC rules enforced so that the Sunshine State delegates are distributed based on the percentage of the vote each candidate got. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus warned Florida Republican Party Chairman Lenny Curry of the violation in a December letter quoting the rule, "...'winner-take-all' states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearvision Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 The problem is Florida was penalized for doing it, by losing 1/2 of their votes. So they took the penalty and went ahead. Now some want a 2nd penalty of forcing them to split the vote up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 The problem is Florida was penalized for doing it, by losing 1/2 of their votes. So they took the penalty and went ahead. Now some want a 2nd penalty of forcing them to split the vote up. Ahhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's not that he is opposing the winner take all rule. It is that he started his challenge when it became clear he was going to lose. When Florida decided that they would take the penalty, the rules were clear to the group. IF Newt had won, I guarantee he would not have been fighting them. Edited to add: Therefore, it ends up that he is challenging them not on principle, but on convenience. It goes to the exact thing I do not trust about Newt. He talks a good game, but at the end of the day he is incredibly Machiavellian. I tend to be more comfortable with people who talk and act without quite such a big discrepancy. I understand why others might not find this nearly as frustrating as I do though. Double edit: Actually, he started the challenge AFTER he lost completely. That is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I learn so much from you all. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickydog Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Just got home from the Rick Santorum rally. I came to the conclusion as I drove home that I could accept him as my pastor in a hearbeat, but as my president he is not my first choice. The venue was first scheduled in a church hall -- don't know the size of the hall, but just as I was walking out the door Rokke called to tell me it had been changed to Mr. Biggs! (Rokke couldn't go because he had to attend his son's lacrosse meeting, and Mr.n. had just returned from a trip so I was on my own.) So off I went to Mr. Biggs and although I was an hour early people were already starting to arrive by the carload. They had a huge room and it was packed with standing room only by the time Santorum was introduced. He gave a good stump speech and then lo and behold Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family, whose headquarters is located in Colo. Springs, came onstage and the two of them sat on high stools and Dobson essentially interviewed Santorum. The most touching part was when he talked about Bella. He also said God didn't tell him he wanted him to be president, He just told him He wants him to walk this path of running for the nomination. Sometimes I felt like I was attending a church rally rather than a political rally and I had the feeling that it wasn't quite what a political rally ought to be. There is no doubt in my mind that Rick Santorum is a good man, probably the best man of them all, and I would gladly vote for him if he ended up with the nomination, but he's not my first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyannaish Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I learn so much from you all. Thanks. Don't trust us! We have no idea what we are talking about. Well, at least I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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