do you believe there was a historical figure the Jesus story was built on?

[Valin]

Democratic Underground :

backwoodsbob

Apr 18, 2014

 

I SO want to believe there was a true man the religion was based on.

 

Of course I don't believe in the virgin birth and the resurrection and all the biblical myths.....but I truly want to believe there was a man 2000 years ago who was so in tune to true progressive idealism that he inspired an entire religion based on his teachings.A following that has been twisted into a cult that insults the meaning of everything the man said.

 

 

I SO wish progressives could take back the church and turn it to what I believe the man...not the myth....wanted us to be...a people who believe in helping there fellow man...a people who look to the least fortunate in our society and say how can we help instead of pushing them under the bus...a society who stands up to the money changers in the temple.....a society who turns the other cheek and believes in lifting all instead of standing in judgement.

 

 

I SO wish we could be the society that the bible says we should be instead of the society the biblethumping moneygrubbers have turned us in to.

 

 

The Comments are very.......enlightening

 

 

[Draggingtree]

Lunatic Lord

By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | April 19th, 2014 at 04:30 AM

 

We accept that Socrates existed, though Socrates did not leave writings behind. A few people so intent on believing Jesus is imaginary have decided Socrates was too. These are largely weak minded fools.

 

Socrates may have no writings on his own, but Plato, Xenophon and Aristophanes — all of whom we know existed — wrote about Socrates. We derive knowledge of Socrates from those who did know him and wrote about him. The same is true of Jesus.

 

Though modern scholarship has spent a good bit of time trying to disprove Biblical writings — again, if you start from the premise that they are frauds, guess what you’ll probably conclude — we do largely know that Matthew was written by the Apostle Matthew, Mark written based on testimony from Peter, Luke written by a doctor who interviewed eyewitnesses and investigated their claims, and John by the Apostle John. Three of the four were based on eye witnesses and the fourth was based on interviews with eye witnesses by one who later became an eye witness to the works of the Apostles. Additionally, the separate books of Peter, John, James, and Jude were written by eye witnesses.

http://www.redstate.com/2014/04/19/lunatic-lord/

[Valin]

@Draggingtree

 

The problem stems from the idea that The Bible is not historically accurate. 100-150 years ago you could say that with some confidence......today...not so much.

[Draggingtree]

@Draggingtree

 

The problem stems from the idea that The Bible is not historically accurate. 100-150 years ago you could say that with some confidence......today...not so much.

Holy Saturday and The Harrowing Of Hell

By: streiff (Diary) | April 19th, 2014 at 07:18 AM

 

Holy Saturday. The third day of the Paschal Triduum, following the Last Supper and The Crucifixion, represents the Harrowing of Hell, the day that Christ brought final salvation to the righteous who had died since the beginning of time.

 

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;

and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,

Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.

He descended into Hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;

He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.

Amen.

http://www.redstate.com/users/streiff/

[Valin]

 

@Draggingtree

 

The problem stems from the idea that The Bible is not historically accurate. 100-150 years ago you could say that with some confidence......today...not so much.

Holy Saturday and The Harrowing Of Hell

By: streiff (Diary) | April 19th, 2014 at 07:18 AM

 

Holy Saturday. The third day of the Paschal Triduum, following the Last Supper and The Crucifixion, represents the Harrowing of Hell, the day that Christ brought final salvation to the righteous who had died since the beginning of time.

 

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;

and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,

Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.

He descended into Hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;

He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.

Amen.

http://www.redstate.com/users/streiff/

 

 

 

HOMOPHOBIA!

[Draggingtree]

 

 

@Draggingtree

 

The problem stems from the idea that The Bible is not historically accurate. 100-150 years ago you could say that with some confidence......today...not so much.

Holy Saturday and The Harrowing Of Hell

By: streiff (Diary) | April 19th, 2014 at 07:18 AM

 

Holy Saturday. The third day of the Paschal Triduum, following the Last Supper and The Crucifixion, represents the Harrowing of Hell, the day that Christ brought final salvation to the righteous who had died since the beginning of time.

 

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;

and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,

Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.

He descended into Hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;

He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.

Amen.

http://www.redstate.com/users/streiff/

 

 

 

HOMOPHOBIA!

 

well dont know if thats a true statement or

[Valin]

@Draggingtree

 

Well everyone knows that Christians hate gays, so any mention of Christians The Bible Jesus is homophobic...except when gays say its not....ie Jesus was gay....or something like that.