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Real People Analyze the "Real" Obama

Posted by Rokke , 08 November 2008 · 5,713 views

The usual "expert" pundits in NYC and Washington D.C. are currently fattening their considerable bank accounts by offering their brilliant analysis on exactly who the real Barack Obama is. Put aside (for now) a discussion of why they've waited until after the election to offer their "wisdom" on the character of Obama. We'll have at least four years to complete the media's self-induced destruction. For now, I'd like to ignore our lying media, and focus on the analytical talents of people who really are experts in analyzing other people. People who make a living actually working for a living. People who interact with Americans who live outside the Washington D.C. Beltway. The pundits had their chance and chose to focus their "talents" on Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. Now that their messiah has been elected, I really don't want to know what the pundits have to say about him. It is time to turn the tables. Let's ignore the media punditry and start listening to real people analyze the "experts" and the personalities they create.

The series of photos published here in the NY Post have opened the door to some interesting commentary from people represented by members of sites like this one. Experts in reality. No hidden agenda. No obligation to speak for anyone. Nothing more than a lifetime of living and observing a real world. After reviewing the pictures in the link above, consider Pollyannaish's comments below, and given her status as an expert in the real world, compare her analysis with the current media portrayal of a modern day messiah in our midst....

Sometimes, people grow up feeling like they are "outside looking in." They think to themselves...."if I could only become (insert perceived holy grail here) I will be on the inside." You see this a lot in people in entertainment.

If you look at Obama's upbringing, its easy to guess that a youthful Obama would feel this way. "If I was only someone important, I would be on the inside." (and perhaps...."My father would pay attention to me because he is an important man.") We never hear about Obama's friends. We hear about his mentors, but not his "buddies." He really hasn't connected with anyone in the Senate. His relationship with his extended family is distant based on reports. He just seems to be always on the fringes of the group.

So he works his butt off and on the night of the election, he discovers to his surprise that he is still on the outside looking in somehow. That's what the pictures seem to show. The celebration is going on around him, but he is outside of it. Disconnected from it. He has all this adulation and belief in him...and yet it is projected onto him, not part of him. And he remains emotionless and almost deflated because all of his hard work didn't fill his need.

This is very different than both Bill Clinton and George Bush who are naturally in the thick of it, on the inside and part of the "it" crowd. They are men who are the center of the room (which makes both of them hated by those who are not) and have always been. It's how they make friends and keep them.

Anyway, this is all just speculation, but I think a good solid case could be made for this. And please forgive me...I just find humanity fascinating.

Politics aside, I actually find Obama to be a fascinating person. There is something not quite "normal" about him. I haven't been able to put my finger on it. I guess now I have four years to observe it...like it or NOT.

But hey...gotta find entertainment in all this some way!

Bill Clinton and George Bush are very much alike in their charismatic qualities. Not character...but charisma. I find it interesting that the country just elected someone who is completely different than that.

You know how President Bush and President Clinton were always the absolute center of attention when they were around other world leaders? With big groups gathered around them? Well, watch. After the pleasantries...Obama will be off to the side, with the other leaders gathered around....probably Sarkozy. I'm not sure who yet...but it won't be Obama.

Edited to add: It might be Obama the first time out...the way all the dogs come over to sniff the new dog...but Obama won't be the alpha. ;)


Pollyannaish provides an interesting perspective that wouldn't have occurred to me if I hadn't read it here. And you certainly won't read it in the lying media. I'll confess that I don't plan on spending much time trying to figure out Obama's character. As with any other celebrity, I simply don't care about him enough to be curious about what makes him tick. My mental image of Obama is of a small person standing on a stage in a dark arena with a single, bright spotlight he has directed to shine only on him. And that's the way he likes it. The picture that struck me the most at the NY Post link was Obama and Michelle on the couch. Not a lot of joy there. They look like a couple on the verge of a divorce...on one of the biggest days of their lives.

Obama has been placed in the White House by mutual agreement between him and the folks in the media and government who put him there. But I strongly suspect that the cooperation that has landed him in the Oval Office won't extend much further. And it will break in both directions.

Obama enters his Presidency with near Utopian expectations from his strongest supporters who have never felt like they've had the ear of the very bureaucracies that fill their feed troughs with handouts and services. Their expectations of Obama must extend beyond our galaxy. Many of them exist in communities that rely on the government for EVERYTHING. If free money can be gained from a government that "is trying to keep you down", imagine what can be gained when "someone like you" is put in charge. I believe the statements from some that "Obama will pay for my gas" are completely genuine and sincerely believed.

We've had strong personalities in the White House before, but generally they were also leaders of their party. Obama barely won the nomination of his party. Is he now considered its leader? Can the cult of Obama exist alongside a democrat Congress? The expectations of Obama's Presidency are so unrealistically high that he is already doomed to fall well short. Nobody could live up to them. What will happen when that becomes obvious? Will Pelosi stand by his side? Or Reid? Or the DNC? Or the black community? ...Anyone?? And does he even think he needs anyone by his side? He's made a habit of stiff arming his own wife and her demeanor reflects the impact. How long before the rest of his allies of convenience wear the same expression.

Can anything about a person's inner personality really be gleaned from a picture? I think Pollyannaish makes a good case for the affirmative. And certainly, her perspective is every bit as valid as the delinquent curiosity now being articulated by "expert" pundits about Obama's real character. In fact, I believe Pollyannaish is on the leading edge of a wave of doubt about who Obama the person really is. Mark her words here and see how they pan out over the next few years. As she says, we'll have plenty of time to observe him, like it or not. She's got us off to a great start. The question is, how sorry will this country be that the (self) anointed "experts" didn't start this process years ago, instead of playing catch up to real people like Pollyannaish now.




Dynamite discussion! thank you for breaking it out like this, Rokke!
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Nov 09 2008 01:44 AM
Excellent job, and thanks for your generosity.

The reason I observe people closely is that it makes them more predictable and allows me to be anticipatory. Sure it is also a hobby and I enjoy it. But at the same time, there is a larger more important reason. No matter who it is—my child, my spouse, my friend, my mayor, my senator, my president or my God....the more I observe them, the more I understand the universe and fewer things take me by surprise. And don't forget, when we observe people we admire, be become better. The Bible says "By beholding we become changed." Our connections with our fellow human beings changes who and what we are. We are a living breathing changing person by simply interacting with others. Each interaction contributes in some way.

Close observation of your surroundings and of the motivations of others allows you to make more effective decisions. It makes their behavior make sense...and very little takes you by surprise. If you watch and listen to George W. Bush, very little catches you off guard. The same was true with Bill Clinton. You only had to watch that guy on a rope line a couple of times to see exactly what motivates him. If you've observed John McCain over the years, him running off to Washington willy nilly during the financial crises to be "bipartisan" and picking someone like Sarah Palin who took on her own party (though hysterically not quite in the way he was thinking) was completely predictable. But we've seen practically nothing in context when it comes to Obama. On stage, in photo ops...very often portraiture. But not one on one, connecting and interacting and that's why I found those photos so incredibly fascinating. The first glimpse of the guy playing the role.

Because of that, I think Obama will be torn between his admirers, and his puppeteers. You absolutely nail it when you say "We've had strong personalities in the White House before, but generally they were also leaders of their party." That is clearly NOT the case, and I want to know who the leader is. Obama is the face. . . but he is not the heart or the hands of his party.

I do have one caveat though: I don't think you can tell much from a single still picture. You can from a series of photos and from an unedited video. But it's much harder to divine context and body language without seeing more than a single 1/32nd of a second.
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All excellent analysis.

Obama will be severely tested personally soon. All the admirers and puppeteers have blindly set him up, and the harsh moments requiring inner personal strength are coming. It will be interesting to see how he changes as he tries to cope.
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I agree with Pollyannaish that there is something "not quite normal" about Obama, and I, too, have so far been unable to put my finger on just what it is. I can't see that an air of aloofness is anything that would keep a person from being a good (or bad) president, but I keep thinking there is something downright spooky about this man. I also wonder how the Peggy Josephs in this country are going to react when they realize they are afterall responsible for paying their mortgages and putting gas in their cars. I actually reread the time frame and what triggered the Watts riots of 1965. Am I crazy for letting scenes like that keep me awake at night? What happens when Utopia doesn't materialize?
I also agree with Pollyannaish about not being able to tell much from single pictures. Maybe the Obama's are reserved in situations where their pictures are being taken and when they are in the eye of a camera, plus in the company of other family members and staff. Maybe they were tense. They HAD to be tense. As pointed out, he does not have the personality of a Bush or a Clinton. So far it is impossible to take the measure of this man.
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Nov 09 2008 09:40 PM

What happens when Utopia doesn't materialize?


I wonder that too nickydog. Half of me thinks they're going to be horribly disappointed and behave rashly, and the other half wonder's if they will even notice because of the cult of personality that has risen up around him.
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